GP wouldn't refer

Hi,

I know there area lot of posts like this but I don't know what to do. I'll try not to ramble on for hours and get to the point! [reading back on this I failed majorly on this point]. I'm sure you all know what it's like anyway but here it is: I've always struggled with things that should have been straightforward (particularly social things but there are other things too that were there but I've always fixated on the social difficulties as the most problematic).

I don't remember how but a few months ago I started reading about autism in females and started crying because it was like I was reading about myself. It was weirdly a happy moment because suddenly it made sense and I could understand why I am how I am.

I decided I wanted to go for a formal diagnosis because otherwise I will always question it - I'm not a professional and I don't know anyone who is autistic (that I know of, I mean I hardly know anyone anyway!) so I don't have someone who really knows about this to talk to. I went to my GP and brought written evidence with me because I knew I wouldn't have been able to explain it all properly in person. I was really emotional while talking to her. She said to come back in a week so she could have the chance to read my notes. I missed the appointment because I got the time wrong - I had it set in my mind it was an hour later than it was and it wasn't 'til I was on my way that I saw my phone calendar and it said the actual time!

Anyway I saw her the next week and she said "it was very interesting to read your notes" but that "there is really nothing that we can do", by which I think she meant that even if I were referred for a diagnosis and they did diagnose me as having ASD, there is nothing that can be done after that to help me so what is the point in referring me? (Although she didn't say that many details, she literally said what I put in quotes.) She said I should carry on with the CBT (Cognitive Behaviour Therapy) I'm currently doing (which kind of helps but it's really just more to think about, although I know it takes a lot of hard work to make it work so I'll keep trying). She suggested I do an online questionnaire (that wasn't on the website she said it was, but someone from that website pointed me towards a questionnaire on another site it turns out I had already done and scored above the ASD threshold, but silly me forgot to mention that in the appointment). Then she recommended I read a novel "Eleanor Oliphant is completely Fine". And that was it. I didn't protest or say that getting a diagnosis was really important to me because I was just focussed on trying to process what she was telling me and that occupied the whole of my mind at the time.

Without a decision either way from a proper diagnosis session, I feel like I will always be questioning myself. But at the same time I don't want to waste NHS resources (I live in Scotland, if that is of any help as to the situation regarding resources for adult autism diagnosis) because on paper my life is fine. I'm grateful for that and I understand that I am relatively fortunate so maybe less deserving of a diagnosis. But at the same time every single day is a huge struggle. I have no friends and never want to socialise although I feel intensely lonely sometimes that I'm not on the same wavelength as anyone. I worry about being withdrawn and isolated constantly and I wish I wanted to socialise and be "normal" (but a lot of the time I'm ok knowing I have one person who I can count on - my partner, although he doesn't know how to deal with me when I am having a "meltdown" or feeling anxious about something that I "shouldn't feel anxious about". I'm a huge strain on the relationship and I don't know how much longer it will hold up, to be honest.

I'm so sorry to have kept writing this long! I really wasn't meaning to tell all like this! It was meant to be a quick "GP wouldn't refer, do you think I should try again". It wasn't meant to turn into a therapy session! If you have kept reading this far, thank you so much. Anyway, I suppose I would really like to know what other people think - what would you do if you were in my situation? Do you think it is worth me going back to the GP? I can't afford a private diagnosis. What should I say to the doctor if I go back?

Here's more background of why I think I might have autism that I had originally written at the top but it's too long so only people who really want to need to read it! I was very quiet and withdrawn in my childhood (with occasional really excessive "tantrums" at home - never at school - when I had to do something I didn't want to - usually something social), the same as a teenager with added emotional outbursts. I was back and forth to the doctor throughout the whole of my 20s getting diagnoses of depression etc. A couple of years ago someone I knew in a professional context suggested I look into whether I might have a developmental disorder (not naming anything in particular, but she had personal experience of that sort of thing). I started off looking into a problem that led nowhere so I thought it must be depression/anxiety after all (but these never quite summed up my particular experiences - as I said I have always felt how I feel, among other things). I considered looking into whether it was autism but many of the typical characteristics just didn't fit me at all. However, reading about female autistic people feels like a spot on match for me though.

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  • Thanks everyone for your help and support. It's so reassuring to hear everyone else's experiences and points of view. Thanks to you all (Former Member,  , , , ), I finally went back to see a different GP today after preparing with test scores and things like  said in their replies and she's agreed to refer me! I didn't even need to bring up the AQ etc test scores but I agree I probably should have mentioned that the first time round. It's going to be a few months' wait but at least someone's listening to me.

  • Really pleased for you Zosh, I had read your first post and felt terrible about how your request for a diagnosis was denied so casually.

    I am un diagnosed and probably never will try to get one. Yes I do need to know and yes I struggle through life. I just couldn’t go through the process then be rejected.

    I am so happy for all the people on here who finally get referrals and eventually a diagnosis.

    Take care and I hope the wait isn’t to long for you until the diagnosis process.

  • Hi Lonewarrior, I completely understand the worry about going through the whole process then being rejected. After the relief that I am being taken seriously, the possibility that I am actually wrong about this is going to get stronger up to the day of my next appointment, I think. It's quite a lonely prospect to think you've found a group of people you can relate to so strongly (finally!) and then have that taken away from you.

    After my first GP appointment, I wasn't thinking about it as much and I wondered if it was really worth going back to try again to get a diagnosis. I was always thinking about this stuff but not as much as I had been before, so it wasn't bothering me quite as much. But then I must have read something that triggered it off again (I think it was an article by Katherine May on the website Aeon https://aeon.co/essays/the-autistic-view-of-the-world-is-not-the-neurotypical-cliche) and I started thinking I really need to know either way because my mind won't rest.

    I think what is bugging me so much is the uncertainty due to the fact that I'm not an expert and haven't spoken face to face with anyone who is aspie/has ASD about this. I hope that even if they conclude that I'm not, at least then I will be able to put it behind me. Maybe I can then start thinking of myself and my struggles in a way that is more helpful. Although, knowing me, I'll probably keep thinking maybe they made a mistake or I didn't answer questions accurately and I'll want to get re-tested. But that's just me and if you're happier as it is without a diagnosis then that's obviously totally fine. Although I've not been involved in this area for very long it seems as though there are loads of people who are happy to be self-diagnosed and the community is very accepting of that, which is good.

    I wish you all the best!

  • Sorry to go iff on a tangent but re an indiviual's reality....

    This is like frame of reference in physics.

    Someone on a moving train throws a ball. They see it go up and down. To an observer watching the train go by would see the ball curve. Both are correct interpretations even tho they are both are different realities. 

    Who is to say which is right and which is wrong?

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  • Sorry to go iff on a tangent but re an indiviual's reality....

    This is like frame of reference in physics.

    Someone on a moving train throws a ball. They see it go up and down. To an observer watching the train go by would see the ball curve. Both are correct interpretations even tho they are both are different realities. 

    Who is to say which is right and which is wrong?

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