Strange experience

Hi NAS 35296,

I am so sorry that you are having such a distressing time. I agree with Ross - Mod that you should start by first contacting your GP but if you need additional help you may like to contact our Autism Helpline team. They can provide you with information and advice. You can call them on 0808 800 4104 (Monday to Thursday 10am to 4pm, Friday 9am to 3pm).Please note that the Helpline is experiencing a high volume of calls and it may take a couple of attempts before you get through to speak to an advisor.

Please see the following link for further information:

http://www.autism.org.uk/services/helplines/main.aspx

Wishing you all the best.

Heather - Mod

Hey, I think you are panicking a bit now. Given that what you experienced sounds quite dramatic that's quite understandable, it's just not a particularly helpful reaction our minds throw in. HIV doesn't give much specific symptoms until really quite late, otherwise it's mainly causing immune problems. So if you have flu symptoms, then you most probably have a flu or another infection, especially if you haven't had contact with body fluids from someone you didn't know or who you know does have have HIV. And why would your neighbour have given you heroine? Assuming you took whatever you got orally, heroine would not do all that much anyway. It's also not something people that know where to get it from would easily give away...

So when you see a doctor, try to trust them rather than getting more worried if they don't test you for either. Tell them what happened and they will have a good idea what they need to look for.

Hello that sounds truly nasty for someone to give you something like that,

you need to contact someone either your GP or any organisation. But you must contact someone who can help support you.

you are as you say a vulnerable adult, 

Do not associate with the people who gave you this,

Please seek professional help right now, there are help lines to the National autistic society on the main page,

take care,

I THINK IT HAD HEROINE IN IT 

MY NEIGHBOUR GAVE ME SOME E LIQUID JUST BEFORE I GOT ILL I GOT FLU AND NOW I HAVE SYMPTOMS OF HIV IM VERY SCARED AND VULNERABLE AUTISTIC ADULT HELP

Hi NAS35296,

I think that given none of us here (I presume) are doctors, and that you mention you have been very ill, it would be best for you to discuss this with a GP - or even go to hospital if you think necessary. It's always better to be safe than sorry.

Best wishes,

Ross - mod

NAS35296 wrote:

I have had some kind of fever but during the experience I shares I was shivering all over and had really bad chest pains like unbearable pain could I of had a heart attack?

Well according to the following listing:

It may be the case that at least to a mild extent your did have a heart attack, but it may have been more a restriction of your heart's functioning due to the restriction of body's functioning as whole ~ basically oxygen starvation or 'Hypoxia' due to the viral infection and reduced breathing capacity.

It is definitely advisable though to call the NHS 111 helpline, or make an appointment to see or have you GP see you, just to stay on the safe side of things and all that.

The personnel of the NHS 111 helpline can get the ball rolling in terms of getting you help if you need it, or they will advise about what you may need to do. Firstly they will ask you: your telephone number, your date of birth; your name and address; who your GP is, and to then 'disclose' the nature of your condition.

They will then ask you some 'safety' questions ~ such as are you bleeding, do have or have you had any previous problems with your heart (which is a consideration with autism), are or were in any pain and what kind of pain, do you have or have you had problems with breathing, and are or were you experiencing nausea, weakness and the like.

This normally takes about ten to fifteen minutes or so ~ or longer if you need, and by which they will ascertain what level of advice they need to provide, or else connect you with a specialist advisor, or inform your GP or another GP to call by phone or visit you in person ~ not exactly a seasonal bonus, but better than regretting not having done so.

In terms then of:

NAS35296 wrote:

hello all, I have been very ill all week and I think I nearly died the other day here is what happened to me in a short story format.

the pain became unbearable, at this point I was squeezing my eyes down into my cheekbone, my mouth wide open; and then an image was printed in my brain. It was an image of a white sandy beach, clear blue sky, a bright sun in the central skyline reflecting rays of light on a calm blue sea. The image then manifested itself as reality. I was literally stood on that beach, then I felt something, I felt something pulling me away from my body i tried to resist but was powerless to stop it. It was scary at first but then calming, I became interested in where I was going. I thought I was dying and then it stopped and I regained consciousness.

what do you think it was just a dream? Or a near death experience?

Well firstly in part what you have described was a dream state, and also a near death experience ~ together. Due to being in as much agony (i.e. unbearable pain) as you were, your body's functional capacity became compromised, or limited.

Being in such distress was too much for your body, and your experiential awareness was off-lined (i.e. you passed out or more accurately passed in) and you found yourself in what some call the 'inner-space'. Having your awareness in the calm inner space allowed your body to get busy in a more vitalised sense, as feeling distressed devitalises us and limits our immunological responsiveness.

The imprinted image you report of the bright son shining its rays through clear blue sky over a calm blue sea, and the white sandy beach ~ are fairly typical representations for a particular range of people, others get gardens, others mountains and so on and so fourth, but basically the first calming image is generally found to be like looking at a picture, or more as if actually through a window, doorway or alcove.

This 'windowing' or 'doorwaying' is basically an efficiency of everyday visual processing in terms of being a flat or 2D image, which we see all the time, but only becomes in part an immersive 3D environment state of affairs when we actually interact with it directly, i.e. picking things up or moving things around etc.

Some people learn to notice this 2D visualisation, at about eight feet more or less in perimeter, but it can involve psychological instabilities developing, so if anyone feels inclined to explore this it is generally found useful to dip into it rather than as such immerse into it ~ i.e. be a sane visitor rather than an insane or deranged resident.

For those of us who have been immersed into this realm of 'near-death' experience, via illness or accident induced trauma, psychological difficulties can become or be an issue, but with appropriate assistance and or ability it need not necessarily be an issue in every case. Some for instance quite literally find a new lease or direction in life with an increased sense of vitality and or purpose, others feel more at peace and content with things, glad to still be alive and all that, and others just carry on as normal and some move swiftly on and leave it well behind them as it were ~ sometimes even completely forgetting it like a dream.

Since the advance and downsizing of Functional Magnetic Resonance Image Scanning technologies from room filling devices to essentially now bicycle helmets, dreams are now known to be experiential realities just as real as day to day experiences, for the experiencer of those realities. Physical wounds in dreams have manifested as physical wounds, and people in hypnotised states have not experienced pain when being burnt or exhibited signs of which after being brought back round from the hypnotic state. I mean people have been dabbling in this stuff for ages ~ but dreams are experiential realities for certain now, rather than just hypothesis or supposition.

The simplest way to analogise waking and dreaming states of embodiment is a television, with the television being the composite form of the mind-body relationship as a whole, and the channels of the television being the experiential realities which occur in the same space, and at the same time. Which channel (or experiential reality) you choose or have no choice over determines those you will not be able to watch (or experience) to differing extents.

Each experiential reality occurs simultaneously ~ on different plains and through different domains or environments of reality. Each possibility of experiential involvement available to you is being explored by the different realities or versions of you ~ one going and doing something somewhere and others going and doing other things elsewhere or in the same place differently.

Jo/e 1 for instance one evening listens to the radio because that version wants to finish reading a book too, whilst Jo/e 2 finished reading the book the day before and is now watching the television instead, whilst Jo/e 3 has a visitor and Jo/e 4 decided to take a walk and the visitor visited at another time, Jo/e 5e went to bed early and so on and on. Some versions of Joe will be confident, some insecure, and everything in between and otherwise. Jo/e remains always a singular individual of several individualities, whether s/he is in character or out of sorts.   

In then having a near-death experience you went or tuned into another version of your experience of self, just as you do in dreams, or in this case during unconsciousness due to the virally induced hypoxia and exhaustion. It is incredibly important on account of which that you take things incredibly easy, for at least a few weeks, as psychological and physiological hangovers of sorts are quite usual after such experiences, and if you experience altered states of perception (such as bright, hazy, foggy, misty, colourful, monochromatic and geometric distortions and whatnot) as some do after near-death experiences (such as in my case), be sure to discuss them with your GP as soon as possible.

Again though, near-death experiences can be fundamentally uplifting experiences, with an enhanced perception of life, the universe and everything, or just one those 'that-was-interesting' experiences that becomes well woven into the rich tapestry of your experiences, and discussions, or it may as such fade from your memory to a large extent or even completely.

I hope you are feeling well recovered now or very soon,

Have a good one, and many many more

DT

I agree with Handi-andis. Get yourself checked out. If you think you are currently as unwell, call NHS 111.

Failing that, make an appointment to see your GP.

There are several conditions which might fit the symptoms you're reporting, but we're not doctors. Make sure you tell the health professionals what you've told us.

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have had some kind of fever but during the experience I shares I was shivering all over and had really bad chest pains like unbearable pain could I of had a heart attack?

Difficult to say but it could be you momentarily stopped breathing. Worth speaking to a GP or NHS24