AI possibility of cure to all diseases and extending human lifespan indefinitely

Experts say AI will fix all diseases and stop death forever. Demis Hassabis, the DeepMind boss, says AI could fix all diseases in 10 years by finding drugs super fast. Ray Kurzweil, the future guy, says AI gets something called longevity escape velocity in the 2030s with tiny robots that fix your body forever. Peter Diamandis, the prize maker, says AI makes your healthy life go to 120 years or more by fixing your personal genes with AI. I am an atheist. I respect religion the same exact way they respect me—one-to-one, equal, no more no less, exact match. My idea is this: if AI stops all diseases and stops aging so life goes forever, we need a law to ban it for religious people. It has to be illegal for them. Why ban it? Step by step logic. First, death is needed for heaven—the Bible says you die first then go to heaven, but no death means stuck on earth forever, no heaven, just a bad trap. Second, suicide is the only way to die then, but the Bible says suicide is a sin that sends you straight to hell, no heaven, so they'd have to pick hell just to escape, which is wrong and forces them bad. Third, it's not fair because it creates a paradox for religious people who believe heaven comes after death, but the tech breaks that belief completely, while atheists like me have no problem living forever, so it's unequal hurt just for them. Fourth, the law protects their religious freedom by letting them opt out and keep the normal death path to heaven, and we respect their rules exactly like they should respect ours for a fair system. So ban it. Logical fix! what do you think?

Edit: sorry i limited my thinking to only 1 religion as there is over 3000 different religions world wide!

  • First, death is needed for heaven—the Bible says you die first then go to heaven

    That is really only for Christian based religions. Others have reincarnation so this is persecuting against them. Because of this it will never be considerd by legal sources even if public morality would accept it.

    I also don't believe there is any religious issue with living an incredibly long life either - it is only the end that is at question in your logic. 

    There remains death by misadventure where drugs will not work - falling into a volcano for example, having a wall collapse on top of you etc.

    For me the biggest issue would be the economic and resource consumption one. The world would not be able to feed all the ballooning population, the wealthy would hoard all the money making the poor a massive underclass and they would soon find ways to control the distribution of the drugs / nanobots or whatever to prevent the poor from being able to do more than be their resources.

  • run out of resources ? that is impossible if you look up! now if you expect every human to live on Earth and never expand beyond our home maybe but that would be the same as saying never leave your house, then yes if you never left your home you'd run out of food!

  • yeah, but tbh i hear it's god plan to everything ( good or bad ) so I'm not sure, like why would it be gods plan for no-one to go to heaven? ( or maybe Heaven is full and his closing the gates )

  • I don’t want to live forever and I agree that most people wouldn't want to either. I’m with you about osteoarthritis as I am on a waiting list for a knee replacement and I have spinal arthritis causing severe nerve pain in my hip. I’m not going to go through all the other body parts that are causing me problems, suffice to know that my body is creaking and groaning all over. 

    Over population would be a serious problem and other religions, e.g. Islam may have a different view of suicide.

    I think the climate change deniers might find their resources eaten up. Of course, they would probably say they can make resources such as lab grown diamonds for industry, so why not precious metals for computers snd technology. AI needs massive amounts of energy which will contribute to faster destruction of our planet. 

    I am quite content that the idea of AI extending life forever will forever remain a hypothesis.

  • Would we really want to live for ever? I'm not sure I would and I don't believe AI will be able to find cures for things like osteoarthritis, and I wouldn't want to be clunking about in an exoskeleton.

    If we all lived indefinately we'd have to stop having children or over corwding and running out of resourses would be a serious problem, far more so than it is now.

    Also not all of us are Christians and believe in heaven and hell in the same way, many of us believe in an afterlife and in reincarnation.

  • Not all experts agree with these claims and DeepMind has its own interest in going along with it. I don’t believe that anything will fix all diseases and stop death. Even if we imagined it was possible, it is likely that the individual would be responsible for deciding if they want to live forever or not. It is likely that in order to live forever, the individual would need to take positive action in the form of drugs/gene therapy or whatever. However, most Christian denominations believe it is not a sin to abstain from taking extraordinary measures to extend life. So there won’t be a problem. 

    Regarding the Bible, some religious people have a literal understanding of how the Bible should be read, but most Christians would understand that the texts were written to be read on several different levels which means that not every word was intended to be taken literally. E.g., Christians in Japan many years ago, had no access to bread made from wheat for Holy Communion, so they used rice to make bread. They didn’t believe that they would go to hell if they didn’t do as Jesus said. The God of the Bible does not expect people to do the impossible so your scenario about death and hell would not be a consideration for most. 

    Your problem will not exist in many thousands of years from now as astronomers and physicists believe the earth will eventually be destroyed by natural forces. People of all religions will be physically equal to those of no religion because the earth and all on it will cease to exist. We come from nothing and we go to nothing. 

  • If we still assume that people wont die, then yes, they will likely have to change things a bit more.

    But I think they have always done that, and from their perspective there isnt contradiction. It will be the plan of god that we change our interpretation.

  • currently*  ( as in 10 years ago no-one thought or believed AI could do what it's doing today ) we have not reached AGI or ASI yet*, now there is a possibility that AI will never be able to think for itself but all we need to do is try every combinations of drugs till one works! so less AI and more down to computing power! 

  • Yes, my point is that feels likely to me that even if all you mentioned is true, people will still die, and religions do not need to adapt as much.

    • PS: still, I retract my point about million years. Assume we likely find stuff to do. Hence the real issue would be knowing we can not die. But in that case, like you said, only suicide could help. For that part I reply below.
  • A.I. isn't really what it says it is "Intelligent", it doesn't come up with new ideas, if you teach it to do one thing then it can do it really well, but don't expect it to come up with new ideas.

    If you hope A.I. will help you live forever, you will be waiting forever in hope.

  • maybe... but the universe is a big place can explore forever but good point on 1 million years I'm only thinking like couple hundred years ahead

  • I doubt anyone will want to live forever.

    And after all, even the universe will eventually die. So, is that realistic?

    Even for those that do wanna go indefinitely, wait a couple of million years and then it will be a torture.