All Humans have Autistic traits

The NAS leaflets say that we all make judgements about other people.

I made a correct judgement about someone and I am supposed to be Autistic.

I told my Mother that someone is a silly old man.

My Mother now told me that I am right on holiday on a small ship he could not even find his way round.

I was not on that holiday.

My Mother disagreed the first time I said it in January it shows that Autistic people can be right and so called NT people can be wrong.

David

I heard a talk on dementia and the speaker pointed out that we all forgetful even if we do not have dementia.

The same is true of Autism.

Whether you are Autistic or not we sometimes do not care about other peoples feellings and every human makes mistakes whether Autistic or not.

It was also said at the Dementia talk that life situations affect people with Dementia.

The same is true of Autism.

We can develop obsessions because of our life situation and not because of Autism.

It can be wrongly attributed to Autism.

David.

I hope it is clear now that all Humans have their Autistic moments but it does not mean that all Humans are Autistic

David

Well, then don't put "All Humans are Autistic" as the subject to a post.

No not all humans are Autistic.

One is considered Autistic if one behaves in a certain way constantly.

I think every Human has their Autistic moments.

David

David said:

What I said was that it is only a matter of degree than a real difference between high functioning Autistic people and so called NTs.

Sure, but that still doesn't mean that "All Humans are Autistic" as you put in the subject of your previous post.

It's like the spectrum of visible light - 'red' is discernably different to 'blue', and it would be incorrect to say that 'blue' is 'red', even though they share the trait of being particular frequencies of electromagnetic waves. This becomes more clear for 'red' and 'orange' - 'orange' may have some of the traits of 'red' but it's still not 'red'.

What I said was that it is only a matter of degree than a real difference between high functioning Autistic people and so called NTs.

David

A good analogy Scorpian! Funnily enough not everyone realises we are related to fish (however obvious) and are surprised when I tell them

David said:

All Humans are Autistic

There's quite a big difference between that, above, and "All humans have autistic traits".

All humans have physical traits that derive from our genetic fish ancestory.

That doesn't mean we're all fish.

We are going away from the subject.

The advantage of Consensus Politics is that we do not have extremes of Right or Left wing ie faschilst or communist.

David

I think the reason is girls are less noticed than boys because they are less agressive with their parents and at school.

I have been thinking that for years.

I remember an incident in a shop nearly twenty years ago that was about the time I first heard of Asperger.

A girl was belching with her mouth.

Her Mum said stop it or you will have to go to bed.

She did stop.

Many boys would not have stopped as they constantly fight their parents.

If you are not agressive you can still be Autistic but you might not be noticed by the Doctors.

When I was nine I partly went to the Maudsley as I made a tantrum in my Doctors surgery about having to wait too long to see the Doctor.  The Maudsley recommended an Autistic School I did not go to.

I would like to have a film of a badly behaved child or adult and say that person is NOT Autistic.

David

Consensus politics is the pantomime illusion of choice, one vote and years of lies.

Consider as countries become industrialized so education developed, people bright enough to run the mechanics of society without being able to feel empowered and able to think critically.

It annoys me the child like beliefs people have that society is somehow fair and just.

Governments and Government agencies consistently break their own laws.

My point is all that is left is non blind compliance and the threats and harassment that go with it- or simply to not understand.

For not understanding I have got permanent exemption from Medicals and filling out paperwork that is just a waste of time.

Continued growth in a finite world is impossible, if Money was not based on an implied value then there would be no need for quantitative easing.

Further to this the crooks that caused the situation have had quantitative easing cash injections (banks)

Also consider a money plus interest and depreciation creates unsustainable situation.

If you commit an act of treason nothing happens- I wrote to queen and did just that.

Statue law keeps the powerful shielded and the poor harassed.

Yes the Gary Mckinnon case is to do with Autism.

The general point is that it does not make much difference whether we have Labour Government or a Conservative Government is not much to do with Autism.

At the moment we have a left wing Conservative Government partly because the Conservatives are in coalition with the Liberal Democrats.

I have an A Level in Government and Politics and if one reads the different legislation passed by both Labour and the Conservatives you would see it does not matter which party is in power.

For example the National Curriculim was brought in when Mrs Thatcher was Prime Mininster. Continual Assessment for exams.

Corporal punishment abollished by the European Court of Human rights when she was still Prime Minister.

The 1989 Childrens Act saying that children in orphanages cannot be deprived of food for punishment.  Mrs Thatcher probably was not very interested in the legislation and probably thought if the so called experts in the Civil Service want it go for it.

I think most Governments let the Civil Service decide which laws to bring in.

It makes me think that our Legislation is drafted by Civil Servants and Eurocrats

More recently the School Leaving Age was raised above sixteen by the Labour Government but the Conservatives are not going to reverse it.

The Leaving age will soon be eighteen.

I think both parties want to bring the Unemployment rate down.

In 1945 Labour brought in the NHS. so there was then some difference between the parties.

I am not sure if Winston Churchill had won the 1945 election means testing in Health care would have gone.

Now we have consensus Politics so that is why many people do not bother to vote in elections.

David.

Or should we just discuss how incapable we all are and be totally Dependant led like sheep.

Look deeper at the train bombings and there are some serious inconsistencies pointed out by survivors.

Same with 9/11

I'd argue it is exactly to do with Autism, when people less bright are herding people with Aspergers Syndrome like sheep.

Gary Mckinnon for example will be shipped like a product to the USA.

The Americans are pee'd off he is more inteligent than them, so rather than get him hired on the quiet- they will make an unfair example of him!

Firstly it is good that terrorism is at a thirty year low.

I remember there was a big terrorist attck in London on London Transport in 2005 but there has not been anything serious since in the lsst seven years.

Secondly I did say that our elected MPs do not really run the Country.

Anyway this is not really to do with Autism.

David

History repeats, the puppets we see at Westminster are controlled and corrupted by their sponsors. Further to this the average slave believes the sovergien is the Queen.

She is a puppet, which I can prove having seen corispondence from ministry of justice and she is allowed no opinion politically.

www.youtube.com/watch

your also 8 times more likely to get killed by police than a terrorist- crime is at a 30 year low.

Yes it makes life more difficult the number of choices we have.

If we order a cup of tea we might have about ten different choices of Herbal tea.

At  one time we would just be given a cup of tea without any choice.

On the whole that makes life simpler.

When I tried a diet it was hard to find Herbal Tea back in the 1980s.

That could only be bought in health food shops.

As for Politics we do not have much influence.

I do not know who is in charge.

I do not think David Cameron is and I do not think Gordon Brown was either.

It appears to me the Country is run by Civil Servants and officials from Europe.

One example is David Cameron said Gary Mckinnon should be tried in the Uk.

Labour said they could not stop Gary's extradition.

Teresa May might say that as well.

David

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Imagine realizing you have choices in things that don't matter, but will be threatened and harassed if you simply don't want to be involved or comply to threats and menaces.

Suddenly you realize that you can understand (stand under) or you can not understand- not understanding means that if you do not threaten anyone or threaten to harm yourself your not detain-able under a mental heath assessment unless they can prove it would drastically improve your outlook on life.

So I do understand the average adult is

1) not very bright, they buy stuff they don't need and think that their ego makes them popular.

2) We are all slaves given choices in things that don't matter example:-

you can choose 10 flavors of ice cream but deadly nuclear waste which has dangers for 100,000 years is non of our business even though science has no solution.

It is like living in the dark ages expecting infinite growth in a finite world,herding people like cattle to buy stuff they don't need.

Maybe thats why education stinks, society stinks and most of the population have puddle depth of perspective.

www.independent.co.uk/.../government-admits-kenyans-were-tortured-and-sexually-abused-by-colonial-forces-during-mau-mau-uprising-7953300.html

allafrica.com/.../201207121188.html

But most people are too self involved and demoralized and indoctrinated to notice or react.

Of Course there is a diffence between Autistic people and NT people but the difference should not be exagerated between the top end of the spectrum and so called NTs.

For example Autistic people are accused of carrying on regardless.

For example an NT person might carry on regardless once a week and an Autistic person might do it once a day.

Another example

An NT person might if given a hundred instructions at work understand eighty percent and an Autistic person might understand forty percent of the instructions without explanation.

That is why support workers are necessary for Autisitc people when they get no jobs.

It is wrong to say that NT people are perfect but I agree that Autistic people have substantially more communication problems and social problems than so called NT people. Perhaps NT means in this case people without a disability.

I think Simon Baron Cohen said that all humans have Autistic traits but Autistic people have more Autistic traits than so called NTs.

David.