Autistic empathy

    It is just as expressive and validating as for the majority of otherwise-sly wired brains. It just presents in a different way. If anyone's seen "Love on the Spectrum" they will see this in action in many scenarios.

    In one scene where the young couple are on their dream trip to Africa, sitting side by each, looking out over the Savanna, the couple sing together a song from the lion king, the love between them at so tangible, it's transcendent. 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6FiAujUJ0&ab_channel=BrianBaer

Uhane said:

In one scene where the young couple are on their dream trip to Africa, sitting side by each, looking out over the Savanna, the couple sing together a song from the lion king, the love between them at so tangible, it's transcendent. 

I watched all of these and was so touched by all of the individuals on there. Yes I watched that particular episode and thought what a special moment for them both. One of my favourite characters on there was Danni.

I've not watched the video and I wouldn't be able to without having a bucket to puke into, I'm very empathetic, but I find romance weird, it maybe because of the way I was brought up. I'm not even sure I know what romance is, apart from something that makes me sick.

Hi there I think you are right there are not simple answers all the time because we are dealing with unkind people outside the community

Uhane, if you don't like the answers to questions don't ask them, and don't read or respond to my posts. Your needless attempts at simplistic solutions is tiresome too.

Me too. nefarious us!

most people aside, if you want solutions let me know. needless belly aching is tiresome.

I do have an ad blocker, I just get a shed load of "sponsered ads" instead of the usual ones.

I think I must use the internet and tv differently to most other people, I have a desk top for the internet and a telly for watching stuff, htat has a humax box attached to it, but it's so painfully slow, I don't seem able to have an ad blocker on there and the ffw button dosen't work on adverts and I don't have the right button for "skip this ad".

I think most people are lazy and don't realise they can object to things like ads or searches that bring up the wrong results. It could explain why there are so many returns of unwanted items and poorly made clothes and stuff, people just don't feel they have any agency or empowerment with it and accept being told that thats just how it is.

I have my ways.

Can you not use an ad blocker? I never leave the desktopwithout one -and use firefox on privacy mode.

TheCatWoman said:

With youtube its the adverts that do my head in, as well as not knowing what to look for or how to look for it.

Agreed.  Me too.  I can't abide advertisements and I refuse to deal with them, where ever possible.  I also choose not to watch "Youtube" in the sense that people use that word......but I have little problem watching most "youtube videos" in another way....on a mobile phone or computer.  I rarely "watch" them, but often just "listen" - hence why I simply cannot abide advert interuptions, or long delays before starts.

TheCatWoman said:

try and give me a load of stuff I don't want

That is my problem with the majority of "interfaces" these days through which we can access things on the internet.

I like things simple and focused.  I have to work hard to achieve this with my tech.

And thank you for explaining as above.  I really am interested in peoples attitudes and experiences with all this sort of stuff.  I am considered VERY weird for my behaviour around tech and internet matters.....but I simply CANNOT understand why that is the case.....99%+ of the population seem unable to appreciate the logic I apply to such things.  Principles.  Rare these days?

TheCatWoman said:

me having to fork out a shed load of money for other peoples convienience rather than because I wanted it.

I am glad to hear that you stick to your guns based on your experiences too.

TheCatWoman said:

an alexa thing, but I think it would just literally give me something to argue with and would probably end up defenestrated and jumped up and down on in the first day.

You and me both!!

Anyway, I hope that me using 4 of your quotes will squeeze through the errant "auto-spam-bot-killer-thing" that lurks around.....and I'll say bye-bye to you CatWoman....with thanks for your time.

Both, it's hard when people tell me 'it's intuitive' as it feels like thats an excuse for not not explaining. Tech dosen't like me and never has, anything from a basic calculator to a computer, to washing machines. When I list the number and weirdness of things that have gone wrong people either tell me it happns to everyone, which it obviously dosen't, or they get angry with me, laugh at me or in the case of the tech guys at uni, they used to hide from me if they saw me coming with anything that looked like a lap top bag.

With youtube its the adverts that do my head in, as well as not knowing what to look for or how to look for it. I've tried using some of the "how to" videos and ended up frustrated, so many are American and they have different stuff to us, even asking for UK only still seems to get me American stuff. In fact the whole of the internet bugs me like that, why when I've searched for something specific, do I only get 3 of them and then a load of stuff thats exactly what I didn't want? I don't do ebay, paypall, internet or mobile banking, social media, games and a load of other stuff either. I'v had satnavs send me to the wrong part of a county and nearly made me miss my sons wedding, I much prefer a map.

I've not had good experiences of people trying to help me with tech either, I get a new computer and we go through the stuff that comes with and and they ask me is the anything I don't want, when I tell them what I don't want, they get cross and tell me I have to have even if I don't use it now, I might later. I've been told I don't deserve a computer because, I 'don't use it properly'. I've had people try and teach me stuff I dont' need to know, in favour of the stuff I do need.

I don't like speakers in computers because I can hear them hissing, I've never had a camera or microphone and have no idea how to do zoom calls or anything like that, or who I would call for that matter. I went to a local woman who's paid by the council to help people get used to digital stuff. She ended up saying there was no point in any further meetings until I got a smart phone and worked out what I would use it for, as I was cross that it seemed to be me having to fork out a shed load of money for other peoples convienience rather than because I wanted it. I lived in an area with no mobile phone signal for about 8 years, we had such poor internet signal that BT gave us a refund. In that time, phones went from the Sony Razor, to the smart phones we have now

When people ask me what I want to do with a computer my mind goes blank and they either try and give me a load of stuff I don't want, like something with a massive screen I'd have to sit in another room not to be overwhelmed by or something so tiny I'd need the hubble space telescope to see it.

I sometimes wonder about getting an alexa thing, but I think it would just literally give me something to argue with and would probably end up defenestrated and jumped up and down on in the first day.

Its like when it comes to tech people start speaking a language I dont' know that they expect me to know. In fact its a bit like being autistic all over again with all the things "tech typical" people expect me to instinctively understand.

these are good questions.

Do you want it that way, or do you either hate dealing with tech and/or tech seems to hate dealing with you?  I don't think I know anyone who doesn't access Youtube.

I hope you don't mind me asking, and please just ignore me if you'd rather not say.  I'm just interested.

I've not got the equipment to do it, no speakers, no youtube no social media

I've not got the equipment to do it, no speakers, no youtube no social media

Hi there I think you are right there are not simple answers all the time because we are dealing with unkind people outside the community

Uhane, if you don't like the answers to questions don't ask them, and don't read or respond to my posts. Your needless attempts at simplistic solutions is tiresome too.

Me too. nefarious us!

most people aside, if you want solutions let me know. needless belly aching is tiresome.

I do have an ad blocker, I just get a shed load of "sponsered ads" instead of the usual ones.

I think I must use the internet and tv differently to most other people, I have a desk top for the internet and a telly for watching stuff, htat has a humax box attached to it, but it's so painfully slow, I don't seem able to have an ad blocker on there and the ffw button dosen't work on adverts and I don't have the right button for "skip this ad".

I think most people are lazy and don't realise they can object to things like ads or searches that bring up the wrong results. It could explain why there are so many returns of unwanted items and poorly made clothes and stuff, people just don't feel they have any agency or empowerment with it and accept being told that thats just how it is.

I have my ways.

Can you not use an ad blocker? I never leave the desktopwithout one -and use firefox on privacy mode.

TheCatWoman said:

With youtube its the adverts that do my head in, as well as not knowing what to look for or how to look for it.

Agreed.  Me too.  I can't abide advertisements and I refuse to deal with them, where ever possible.  I also choose not to watch "Youtube" in the sense that people use that word......but I have little problem watching most "youtube videos" in another way....on a mobile phone or computer.  I rarely "watch" them, but often just "listen" - hence why I simply cannot abide advert interuptions, or long delays before starts.

TheCatWoman said:

try and give me a load of stuff I don't want

That is my problem with the majority of "interfaces" these days through which we can access things on the internet.

I like things simple and focused.  I have to work hard to achieve this with my tech.

And thank you for explaining as above.  I really am interested in peoples attitudes and experiences with all this sort of stuff.  I am considered VERY weird for my behaviour around tech and internet matters.....but I simply CANNOT understand why that is the case.....99%+ of the population seem unable to appreciate the logic I apply to such things.  Principles.  Rare these days?

TheCatWoman said:

me having to fork out a shed load of money for other peoples convienience rather than because I wanted it.

I am glad to hear that you stick to your guns based on your experiences too.

TheCatWoman said:

an alexa thing, but I think it would just literally give me something to argue with and would probably end up defenestrated and jumped up and down on in the first day.

You and me both!!

Anyway, I hope that me using 4 of your quotes will squeeze through the errant "auto-spam-bot-killer-thing" that lurks around.....and I'll say bye-bye to you CatWoman....with thanks for your time.

Both, it's hard when people tell me 'it's intuitive' as it feels like thats an excuse for not not explaining. Tech dosen't like me and never has, anything from a basic calculator to a computer, to washing machines. When I list the number and weirdness of things that have gone wrong people either tell me it happns to everyone, which it obviously dosen't, or they get angry with me, laugh at me or in the case of the tech guys at uni, they used to hide from me if they saw me coming with anything that looked like a lap top bag.

With youtube its the adverts that do my head in, as well as not knowing what to look for or how to look for it. I've tried using some of the "how to" videos and ended up frustrated, so many are American and they have different stuff to us, even asking for UK only still seems to get me American stuff. In fact the whole of the internet bugs me like that, why when I've searched for something specific, do I only get 3 of them and then a load of stuff thats exactly what I didn't want? I don't do ebay, paypall, internet or mobile banking, social media, games and a load of other stuff either. I'v had satnavs send me to the wrong part of a county and nearly made me miss my sons wedding, I much prefer a map.

I've not had good experiences of people trying to help me with tech either, I get a new computer and we go through the stuff that comes with and and they ask me is the anything I don't want, when I tell them what I don't want, they get cross and tell me I have to have even if I don't use it now, I might later. I've been told I don't deserve a computer because, I 'don't use it properly'. I've had people try and teach me stuff I dont' need to know, in favour of the stuff I do need.

I don't like speakers in computers because I can hear them hissing, I've never had a camera or microphone and have no idea how to do zoom calls or anything like that, or who I would call for that matter. I went to a local woman who's paid by the council to help people get used to digital stuff. She ended up saying there was no point in any further meetings until I got a smart phone and worked out what I would use it for, as I was cross that it seemed to be me having to fork out a shed load of money for other peoples convienience rather than because I wanted it. I lived in an area with no mobile phone signal for about 8 years, we had such poor internet signal that BT gave us a refund. In that time, phones went from the Sony Razor, to the smart phones we have now

When people ask me what I want to do with a computer my mind goes blank and they either try and give me a load of stuff I don't want, like something with a massive screen I'd have to sit in another room not to be overwhelmed by or something so tiny I'd need the hubble space telescope to see it.

I sometimes wonder about getting an alexa thing, but I think it would just literally give me something to argue with and would probably end up defenestrated and jumped up and down on in the first day.

Its like when it comes to tech people start speaking a language I dont' know that they expect me to know. In fact its a bit like being autistic all over again with all the things "tech typical" people expect me to instinctively understand.

these are good questions.

Do you want it that way, or do you either hate dealing with tech and/or tech seems to hate dealing with you?  I don't think I know anyone who doesn't access Youtube.

I hope you don't mind me asking, and please just ignore me if you'd rather not say.  I'm just interested.