Identity within autism

I was doing some searching on autistic language and I happened upon this:

https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/52787

The Clinical Gestalts of Autism: Over 40 years of Clinical Experience with Autism

This point in particular caught my attention:

'Identity diffusion is central to autism, and this will include their sexual and other identities. This is probably due to the neural connectivity problems in the brain [9]. Contradictory identities can exist side by side in their mind. They can switch to another and opposite identity very rapidly. This can be confused with so-called multiple personalities. This identity diffusion can cause stress in making decisions and in employment, and despite intelligence and good education, they may withdraw and cease to seek employment. They can confuse people with these contradictory identities. They do not have a clear sense of themselves and people find it difficult to understand them. This makes it very difficult for them to have a clear sense of other people. This increases interpersonal stress. They are often mistaken for the opposite sex and come across as being androgynous. Males can appear to have a soft female facies and females with a somewhat harder male facies. They may dress more like the opposite sex, which always causes confusion and shows signs of gender dysphoria. A small number will have transgender problems. Sometimes they feel unreal and de-personalised as living in a film and having an “as if” personality. Older adolescents with autism or Asperger’s syndrome often appear to be “asexual”. This can be very deceptive as the very same people can get involved in perverse, dangerous sexual activities'.

  • Interesting comment about building things. I am not particularly practical and my husband does most of the fixing jobs. However he often figures it out by trial and error whereas I follow instructions each stage at a time, so there have been times when I have done flat packed building when he has got stuck. My method is slow though as I lay out all the pieces then talk myself through step by step.

  • Sometimes they feel unreal and de-personalised as living in a film and having an “as if” personality.

    I feel that the abstract you've found is quite wishy-washy, and I would have loved to see the statements backed by representative evidence. Too many statements use the word 'can', and it's almost like listening to some advertisement where a praised product 'can' do something. 

    However this sentence struck home with me. I often find myself 'directing' myself in my life, like there was someone inside my brain commenting what I was doing, giving stage directions. As I  was observing myself. At times it is very entertaining, and I think that is what my brain is doing - keeping itself company. But I do think it is odd, and I am sure not everyone has an unsolicited 'imaginary friend' living inside their brainbox.

  • sounds more like multiple personality disorder or even did

  • Interesting post, although it appears to me a lot of assumptions have been made through observation only.

    I just looked up what identity diffusion is:

    • Identity diffusion occurs when an individual hasn’t committed to an identity and isn’t working to form one.

    So I've learned that, but now I'm wondering what "committing to an identity" means exactly? I think it means deciding what your beliefs are, possibly including your gender and religious and political beliefs, and what identity groups you belong to e.g. Goth, member of the church choir, football supporter, celebrity fan, etc. I think most people are supposed to maintain their identity for life once it's fully formed as a young adult?

    I don't think I have ever fully committed to an identity. My sex is female, but although I was sometimes frustrated by my gender when I was young (can't play war with the boys, can't do woodwork instead of sewing) I don't really think about it now, and I don't feel it defines me. I've changed appearance (hair, clothing etc.) changed political views, changed religious beliefs, and changed interests a lot over my adult lifetime.

    However, my stress in making decisions and in employment wasn't caused by identity diffusion. It was caused by finding most jobs tedious and not having accommodation for my needs. Other people don't understand or are confused by me because I don't match their belief web (60+ year old woman who doesn't drive and enjoys video games)

    Do I have a clear sense of self? - yes. It may change, but I know who I am.

    Do I have a clear sense of other people? No, that's why I ask them questions. Usually they enjoy talking about themselves, so what's the problem?

    Get mistaken for the opposite sex? No

    Androgynous/ dress like the opposite sex? No, I like skirts

    Asexual? Now I'm old yes, when I was younger, no

    Perverse? - definitely not!

    I like my ch..ch..ch.. ch...Changes (perhaps Bowie was autistic?)

  • When it comes to identity I’m a female and always was. But, there is a little but. In presence of other female colleagues I always had some kind of interest in them, but never competing in terms of attractiveness, make up, clothes, popularity, etc. I was always frustrated that I’m expected to be like them and socialise like them when I couldn’t. At some point I thought it would be better if I was a man. It’s not that I find being man less difficult or challenging, but I knew if I was a male I could just become a car mechanic and not care about make ups and other staff that were stupid and boring to me. I also remember twice I heard from women that I’m totally like a man and they would date me if I was a man. Lol! But to be clear I identify as a woman and never intended to transition my gender. It took me long time to find and express myself and find the explanation. I’m much better at fixing, building things and reading instructions than my husband xD while he is complaining about the instructions being stupid and not clear, I just take the parts, take a look at them, the instruction, build it up and hand him the item over to him. Maybe there is something more male in me, but it’s ok. 

  • Speaking personally, I have never had any problem with my identity, it has always been interpreting other people that has been my major difficulty.