Published on 12, July, 2020
After making a non pc comment i now can't post it adds me to a que then it never gets uploaded.
I'm sorry to hear that. There are a lot of autists on here who seem to react to things people say in an even more irrational and aggressive manner than the average neurotypical.
Irrational, to you.
Perhaps it would be wise to acknowledge that, regardless of your own views, there are others here who will feel offended, undermined, and targeted by some of the words used and the things people say.
I'm not transgender, I have no dog in that fight, but when I see words like 'Tranny' being used in an environment in which there are transgender and LGBTQ users I start to understand a bit better the world they have to live in, the sort of comments they have to endure by people with their 'opinion' they have to make everyone aware of.
This place is supposed to be welcoming, inclusive, and aware of the fact that it's users have quite unique differences, not a place where people come to be told that if they take offense to something it's a result of an autistic fault, rather than becauss they're a sensible person capable of reason and rational thought.
You talk of people being aggressive... I personally have stepped away from debates with yourself and others because I acknowledge this is a forum for autistic people. Had I not given people the courtesy of remembering they are autistic I would have reacted in the same way I do with anyone else spouting the same right wing clap trap while at the same time not having the bravery to identify themself as right wing, preferring anti-woke, or anti-PC. Personally I don't consider myself to be either of those things but I'd rather wear those badges than the alternative.
In the words of Ray Davies:
"He's got a phony smile that makes you think he understands,But no one ever gets the truth from plastic man (plastic man)"
I can try but it’s not first language you see.
Solipsist said:It’s “are Inglund bac” regressing towards a page three, carry on grouping way that we’re back in again now
Errr - can you convert that to English please?
en.wikipedia.org/.../Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom
Yeah why not? It’s “are Inglund bac” regressing towards a page three, carry on grouping way that we’re back in again now.
Martin said:Try not to be either foolish or deliberately disingenuous.
Sorry for treading on your turf.
Try not to be either foolish or deliberately disingenuous.
I’d just noticed that most brexidiots all seemed to look similar. Moon face, generally looking unfit, I’ll fitting shirts with belly hanging over etc etc. Then I heard there was a new word for it and it does seem true. Just google the word and see what images come up. Why should those with not long left be allowed to get away with destroying the lives of us younger positive folk who love other religions and races. But feel shame a put this nasty country.
Solipsist said:We should have a health check - see who’s in best shape.
Body-shaming. Nice.
sometimes veg can be pretty bad for you, which is shown mostly in vegans as they kinda look malnourished. you see theres alot of plant based food that the human body isnt designed to eat, they contain toxins in them that inflame your bowles with intent to try force you to poop them out, this causes anything you eat to not be processed properly so you cant get the nutrients out of any other food because your bowels are force ejecting before you can take the nutrients out of the food. eventually these plant based foods, especially in vegans, cause leaky gut syndrome and IBS due to the inflammation damage to the guts.but the classical face feature your referring to is indeed more a cause of alcohol intake. the alcohol causes blood vessle reaction which then causes the slight reddish pinkish face.
Always has been - 'whey-faced loon' occurs in Shakespeare. As long as the insult is not based on a racial distinction in skin tone, it is not racist, it is just a commonplace insult, like 'baldy' or 'specky-four-eyes', not pleasant, but not racist either.
Martin said:Red-faced white men' are not a race. The same goes for freckle-faced white girls,
Trying to shame people for skin colour or features. Sooooo enlightened.
eh... so its ok to say a nasty comment about someones other coloured face then? like if you made a comment about someones brown face what would happen then? that would be racist but brown isnt a race right?
We should have a health check - see who’s in best shape. The brexidiots or the sharing caring good people.
Your replies are becoming more and more irrational. Please try harder.
'Red-faced white men' are not a race. The same goes for freckle-faced white girls, bald-headed white men, elderly white women with arthritis etc. etc. etc.
Also, you can have red-faced, middle aged, Marxist men, they are also not a race.
Exactly.
It’s based more on health. Haven’t you noticed that almost all brexiteers have a certain look? Like alcohol drinking non veg eating heart attacks waiting to happen…? Like Phil Mitchell in #coldwarsteve artwork.
its based on skin colour though..... even if its not race its still a insult based on ones skin colour... is insulting based on skin colour now acceptable in the world?
Martin said:white men, do not constitute a race,
Seems to indicate a certain sector of the population.
Good! Your mind is equally closed.
Plastic said:Martin said:white men, do not constitute a race, Seems to indicate a certain sector of the population.
..but what he really said is
Martin said:Red-faced, apoplectic, opinionated middle-aged white men, do not constitute a race, in anyone's reasoning.
LOL! I've seen misquotes before but to take PART of a sentence to fit your own needs.
aye but still the term gammon is usually used as a sluur word to racially attack white people for the colour of their skin and can be applied to any white person. is attacking someone for the colour of their skin not racist? i think it is, unless the rules have now changed again, in which case people can now make derogatory comments about brown coloured skin now then? lol
I'm not going to engage with your closed mind - there's literally no point.
The same happened in Britain, war imposes stringencies on businesses and individuals alike. It isn't caused by or described as socialism, it is caused by and described as 'war of attrition', or 'the Home Front'.
Martin said:Are you attempting to invalidate me?
Not at all - but as you have stated your 'facts' and I know mine, there's little point going forwards - I suspect we disagree to such an extent on so many things that there is no middle ground.
I was using 'reverse racism' in the context that people with rosacea and freckles and red hair are not races.
Hogwash. There is considerable doubt that such a thing as a 'white race' exists. As far as genetics goes, there is more genetic distance between an Ethiopian and a Nigerian, than there is between an Irishman and a Japanese or a Maya. All non-Africans are descended from a sub-clade of humans that left Africa, while the people of Africa (Sub-Saharan) are the most genetically heterogeneous in the world.
Hitler did not nationalise industries, when he became chancellor he PRIVATISED state industries. Go check it, it's a fact. Of course Hitler and his party were not socialist, they were nationalists and fascists.
Plastic said:Either way, I'm not understanding your involvement in this thread.
Are you attempting to invalidate me?
Martin said:none of the great German businesses, the Krupps, Messerschmitts etc., were ever nationalised.
Absolutely wrong - they were put under strict government control - to a ludicrous extent where the ministers and bureaucrats almost crippled the business and they eventually cost Hitler the war.
Hitler totally rejected capitalism - it was a product of the hated (people of a certain religion)
There are some excellent tv shows "War Factories" that go into great detail through the history of the various companies in WW2 - I suggest you watch the one on Krupps and there's a good one on the German aircraft industry under government control through the war. Classic socialism.
he needed power, he was a smart man.... the modern day socialists are doing that too though.... why do you think all these brands are on the socialists side? .... every single lefty social activist thing you see big capitalist brands hijack and promote.... just the same innit? history always repeats.. and you cannot do anything without this anyway, man with no money or influence gets nowhere. this is why true socialism never comes from the ground up, this is why they always end up with big brands on their side lol this is probably also why they become massive hypocrites and do the things they claim to oppose and say its ok when they do it.
A central tenet of true Socialism is the brotherhood of the working classes across political boundaries, this is hardly the same as the concept of the German Übermensch, that Nazism embraced. Hitler engaged capitalism to support his cause, none of the great German businesses, the Krupps, Messerschmitts etc., were ever nationalised. Also in the rise to power of Hitler in 1931-33, financiers and industrialists poured money into the Nazi Party.
theres no such thing as reverse racism.... there is only racism.... if you hate white people, thats not reverse racism, to say that is reverse racism is racist in itself as that implied the only way to reverse or fix racism is to hate and be racist against white people... so reverse racism in itself is kinda a racist term too when you think on it lol the only true reverse racism is to not be racist to anyone at all and not to hate anyone for their skin colour or ethnicity or their peoples history that they honestly had nothing to do with.
You were supporting Caelus' use a of variation on reverse-racism. Suggesting that in some way I was being 'racist' or using 'hate speech' against middle-aged men with red faces, or freckled schoolgirls:
Plastic said:Trying to shame people for skin colour or features. Sooooo enlightened.
My post above was an attempt to contextualise my position on racism and re-writing history. The quote of your post was deliberately intended to make it appear that I judge people on appearance and that I was derogatory in my language. The only thing that I said that could be by the wildest imagination as being derogatory was my 'disgusted of Cheltenham' usage. If this is condemnable then so are Monty Python, whose trope it was. Monty Python, that well-known group of racist comedians.
the *** were a socialist party, and hitler was indeed some....weird... variant of socialist.... he hated capitalism because well... yeah... who do you attribute capitalism and mercantilism to? ... a certain people that hitler hated yes?as for the truer socialists in his party, they were followers of strasser, and hitler had him and his followers killed.... but they were still nasty anti-semetic *** whod have followed hitler to the end if he himself didnt distrust and betray them. as for hitler himself alot of his ideas were very socialist, although ethno central socialism... he was anti-colonial and promised every ethnic group their homeland back off whatever empire was over it. this was a good strategy considering those empires he saw as germanies future enemies and so raising rebelion in his enemies ranks perhaps we could say wasnt due to legit wanting to be anti-colonial and give natives freedom but instead to use them to rise up, although we can say modern day socialists are just like that too in their supposed support of BLM for regime change but yet they never cared and ditched BLM once they got their guy in power and no longer had use for that group of people they once claimed to support. so theres alot of similarities there in how socialism operates no matter who weilds it and no matter what variant of socialism it is.... hell what do people think redistribution of wealth and land is? its exactly what hitler was doing... people call for that and dont think on what it means and then we get people like hitler taking away land and wealth and then when they realise it they complain and say they had nothing to do with it despite it being their ideals?
Interesting - I don't think I've ever said anything racist on here and I do not mention my personal political leanings - and your 'facts' may be different to my 'facts' - so I'm not sure what dog you have in this fight.
I have a long history of standing up against racism and the deliberate distortion of history. I took someone, an American living in France, to task, publicly, for claiming that "90% of predatory crime in France was perpetrated by Arabs" and that "Hitler was a Socialist" I did it perfectly politely, and as a result I was called a "parasite", "snake", "liar" and some other derogatory stuff. Somewhere out there this is recorded in a printed book. Unable to get the upper hand in our 'duel by letters to he editor', he engineered a change in the editor of the magazine and had me banned from replying to his last letter. As a result of this and other run-ins with right wingers, and also out and out neo-fascists, I tend to snap back hard..
Martin said:The human male has a bite force in excess of that of a Labrador. I am human.
I'm surprised at you - I never had you down as the stabby type - why do you feel the need to join in? I actually rated you higher than that. Oh well - time to re-evaluate some people.
The human male has a bite force in excess of that of a Labrador. I am human.
Oh dear. Like being attacked by a senile Labrador.