Energy Healing

I'm newly on the NHS waiting list for an adult autism assessment.

Also recently enrolled in a pet therapy course which includes energy healing. I'm struggling with the latter part but don't know if it's me and being new to it or any potential spectrum effects blocking it.

Google is no help as it just returns results for energy healing helping autism.

Can an autistic person successfully train in and use energy healing or am I wasting my time trying?

  • That's quite hurtful. Please take a step back, breathe, and remember that you are speaking to people who've all come down various paths, some more difficult than yours. Take the time to understand what is causing your frustration. I can guarantee it's not the conversation here.

  • Smiley       Not in the slightest - to be honest, I thought this was going to be a different sort of scam - the hook people in first and then start dropping the scam links when enough 'customers' had come out of the corners to proclaim themselves and ready for fleecing.

    And I was genuinely trying to be nice - pointing out this is a very small place - did they think there's enough custom in vulnerable, easily manipulated people for them to bother.

    We have our answer.

    People can believe what ever they like - but it's very much a buyer-beware market out there.   

    From the OP's point of view, this is total vindication of their business plan and I wish them well.   Smiley

  • In the word of King Crimson 
    Great Deceiver
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    In the night he's a star in the Milky Way
    He's a man of the world by the light of day
    A golden smile and a proposition
    And the breath of God smells of sweet sedition
    Great Deceiver
    Sing hymns make love get high fall dead
    He'll bring his perfume to your bed
    He'll charm your life 'til the cold winds blow
    Then he'll sell your dreams to a picture show
    Cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary
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    Cadillacs, blue jeans, dixieland playing on the ferry
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    Camel hair, Brylcreem, drop a glass full of antique sherry
  • Hey Plastic soul... I feel sorry for you even more than ever now I have seen what you've written. To think your whole life that is ending soon has been wasted! :(

  • Hey don't worry - these folk have no soul, no meaning whatsoever. Thery have cut out thier soul. They have no magic at all. They are broken autistics who feel shame at being autistic and they try their hardest to be like verone else. Like NTs. NTs have no soul either. They all live in the newtonian worldview with the shadow of death hanging over their every move. 


  • For heavens sake. It's like a Political convention here. I asked one question yet you're having a completely different discussion.

    Shut the eff up already!


    It is considered good conduct on autistic websites where neurologically divergent thinking is guaranteed by default; that you state in the opening post that the topic of discussion is to involve only answers to your question ~ given that the first rule of the National Autistic Society's public website of forums is:


    1. Be nice to one another and enjoy chatting with others. We encourage conversation and respectful debate; however, insulting posts or comments making personal jibes will not be tolerated.


    With the additional problem of course being that telling people to shut up and leave by way of an enforcing expletive is generally considered to be disrespectful and insulting. 

    Have a good one and may it lead to many more.  



  • It was more to find out if anyone on the spectrum has experience of doing such work or there are challenges to visualisation etc for channelling Chi.

    If you cannot visualise it is not a problem, and even if one has difficulties doing directed breathing such as pulling energy up from the earth through the feet whilst breathing in, and pushing energy down into the earth through the feet whilst breathing out (hence the term grounding) ~ one can learn to just let the flow of energy flow sort of thing. 


  • For heavens sake. It's like a Political convention here. I asked one question yet you're having a completely different discussion.

    Shut the eff up already!


  • Fools and their money......

    Rather than belittling people's intelligence whilst continuing to ignore as I stated that double blind studies measure effectiveness, such as for example:

    Reiki Is Better Than Placebo and Has Broad Potential as a Complementary Health Therapy
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    Abstract
    This study reviews the available clinical studies of Reiki to determine whether there is evidence for Reiki providing more than just a placebo effect. The available English-language literature of Reiki was reviewed, specifically for peer-reviewed clinical studies with more than 20 participants in the Reiki treatment arm, controlling for a placebo effect. Of the 13 suitable studies, 8 demonstrated Reiki being more effective than placebo, 4 found no difference but had questionable statistical resolving power, and only one provided clear evidence for not providing benefit. Viewed collectively, these studies provide reasonably strong support for Reiki being more effective than placebo. From the information currently available, Reiki is a safe and gentle “complementary” therapy that activates the parasympathetic nervous system to heal body and mind. It has potential for broader use in management of chronic health conditions, and possibly in postoperative recovery. Research is needed to optimize the delivery of Reiki.

    And such research has paved the way for papers such as this:

    Energy Therapies in Advanced Practice Oncology: An Evidence-Informed Practice Approach

    Abstract

    Advanced practitioners in oncology want patients to receive state-of-the-art care and support for their healing process. Evidence-informed practice (EIP), an approach to evaluating evidence for clinical practice, considers the varieties of evidence in the context of patient preference and condition as well as practitioner knowledge and experience. This article offers an EIP approach to energy therapies, namely, Therapeutic Touch (TT), Healing Touch (HT), and Reiki, as supportive interventions in cancer care; a description of the author’s professional experience with TT, HT, and Reiki in practice and research; an overview of the three energy healing modalities; a review of nine clinical studies related to oncology; and recommendations for EIP. These studies demonstrate a response to previous research design critiques. Findings indicate a positive benefit for oncology patients in the realms of pain, quality of life, fatigue, health function, and mood. Directionality of healing in immune response and cell line studies affirms the usual explanation that these therapies bring harmony and balance to the system in the direction of health. Foremost, the research literature demonstrates the safety of these therapies. In order to consider the varieties of evidence for TT, HT, and Reiki, EIP requires a qualitative examination of patient experiences with these modalities, exploration of where these modalities have been integrated into cancer care and how the practice works in the oncology setting, and discovery of the impact of implementation on provider practice and self-care. Next steps toward EIP require fleshing out the experience of these modalities by patients and health-care providers in the oncology care setting.


    Clinical research of this variety have led to people making listings of NHS hospitals that involve Reiki and other energy healing therapies in their treatment protocols ~such  as follows:

    Energy Healing in the NHS

    If people believe all this stuff then good for them - but they are preying on the desperate and the stupid - both of which will willingly bankrupt themselves for a cure. 

    Address then internet fraudsters and fraudsters otherwise involving objective evidence rather than just your subjective opinion, and continue no further to characteristically defame or intellectually belittle legitimately qualified therapists and their discerning clientele or patients.
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    And incidentally I have trained and practised Reiki healing like others for free in each and every case, and I myself have only accepted money as being donated to one or more charities of the patient's choosing. So your fools parted with their money and me and others likewise praying on the vulnerable does not apply at all except as an insult . . .   
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    It is quite amusing though with you denouncing energetic healing as being a rip-off, particular as most of my patients in oncology and terminal care units and at home were in fact desperate to sleep and got to sleep (or at least the heart beat dropped to a restful rate for the unconscious patient and became a less distressing rate for their family and friends) ~ and doctors with drug regimens no longer safely working pain relief and safer doses were achieved (as addressed in the paper above on Evidence Informed Practice).

    Can this system cure autism in animals?

    No. Autism is not a disease or an illness to be energetically or medicinally cured as it is a physiological and psychological state of being, and the notion of "curing" autistic people or animals of their state of being is considered by many on and off the spectrum as being deeply offensive (due to the ethnic cleansing and societal exclusion ramifications)! 
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    So ~ rather than as 'curing' animals (or people) of their autistic body-mind relationship, energetic healing involves instead 'treating' them to bring about a more harmonious and balanced state of health.

  • Fools and their money......

    If people believe all this stuff then good for them - but they are preying on the desperate and the stupid - both of which will willingly bankrupt themselves for a cure.         Can this system cure autism in animals?


  • Yep, I had burnout from life in 2003 and then from canine behaviour work 2 years ago. Still going to go back to it though, adding the therapy work to my skills.

    Just stating perhaps the blatantly obvious and in case anyone is inspired and has not considered the potential costs ~ one needs to have an appropriate level of qualification in energy healing from or as accepted by the National Federation of Spiritual Healers, the Reiki Federation or some such organisation to offer it therapeutically and be insured and all that.

    Regarding also the possibility of not being a natural energy channeller / healer and finding it difficult to achieve, Reiki involves an attunement process with level two being the requisite for professional practice, with basic attunement prices being about £100 for Level 1, £200 for Level 2 and £300 for Level 3.

    Some Masters (Level 3) will attune for free, and some for donations and others will do it for thousands ~ as in not just at mountain top retreats and all that up the Himalayas or California and that sort of thing.

    Oh yes ~ there are two types of Reiki with one not using attunement levels and symbols in that they can mess up some people's energy flows if they are energetically fragile or delicate, as in one sense being that the attunement process turns the chackras and meridians on all of a sudden from being 'off' ~ rather than the aspirant progressively learning to use them in tiny increments, as Tai Chi and Qi Going practices and such like do progressively.

    Of course if someone is energetically / spiritually robust the progressive ability to channel is staged through the three Reiki attunement levels.

    In another sense the energetic symbols that are drawn or placed in the chackras to activate them can be incompatible with the aspirant, so just as the antibiotic Penicillin is not compatible for everyone ~ the same can apply for some with the Japanese pictograms. So the non pictogram version of Reiki is just channelled energy with the intention or even no intention to open the ways according to the needs of the aspirant ~ with the no intention variety of attunement relying purely on the aspirant's intentionality. 

    If having been attuned and finding the ability to channel energy becomes too much ~ as some recipients also find, one can be 'detuned' and have as it were the gates (chackras) and pathways (meridians) closed again.


  • If this is something you are passionate about, you trust the course provider, you're certain that your wellbeing will be protected, then go for it. ASD will not hold you back from following your passions. 

  • Meant animals, not adults.

  • I'm really pleased it helped you Trei! I agree it works for some people, I would say that it would possibly be because of the training of the healer, and to do with the recipient also. I just honestly cannot see how an online course would actually teach anything practical. Then there's the concept of using it with adults. I don't mean to cause offence to anyone, if this is something they are passionate about, then they should do it. A highly qualified and knowledgeable person working with people, I have no issue with. Again, just my own thoughts which are not intended to upset anyone. 


  • @Deepthought

    That's interesting as the course tutor recommended Qi Gong to me as well. Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions.


    Glad to have been of some assistance! Relaxed


    Yep, I had burnout from life in 2003 and then from canine behaviour work 2 years ago. Still going to go back to it though, adding the therapy work to my skills.

    I did mine during the early and late nineties ~ the first as a manager and the second as a therapist, with the second burnout somewhat proving like the first that I needed to manage my schedule with me in mind foremostly rather than others. 


    At least now I understand more about myself and hopefully a dx will open up appropriate support to avoid any further burnout.

    Getting told by a friend that I needed to get diagnosed and so doing really helped me understand myself, and applying that comprehension with the Equality Act 2010 has allowed me to prevent any further burnouts from undue social pressures ~ "Reasonal Adjustment" stylie and all that.

    I am still working on the support thing though as one of the social workers have suggested I have motivational issues, and are trying to see if I cannot get psychotherapeutic assistance to help me with them ~ despite having been recently discharged from the psychotherapy service on the basis that they do not have appropriately qualified staff in this area to help me with my problems.

    The social work team have not as yet come to the understanding or comprehension that the Psychogenic Non Epileptic Seizures I suffer from ~ are causing what they imagine to be the "motivational" issues, otherwise known as post seizure psychological fragmentation and physiological exhaustion. 

    Good job this is taking a long time really (started in July 2018) as I am trying to get used to the idea of getting support as I am much more used to being left to my own devices, but they will work it all out eventually as I have already provided them with all the requisite information from medical professionals and occupational therapists ~ bless them. 

    Just out of curiosity so do not feel that you have to answer if you do not wish to ~ have you got long to wait for your diagnostic assessment? 



  • complete scam ignore this rubbish

    Is that complete ignorance on your behalf or do you actually have evidence to disprove the evidence presented?


  • I have attempted to add you Lemon Lady. 

  • Its not like that Pikl. I went to a healing meeting because I was a desperate 17-year-old in agony. I didn't believe for a second that it would do a thing, but it did. There is a way to heal a person without depleting your own energy too. Its a case of washing your hands & getting out of the area where the healing took place. I agree, it still sounds nuts to me too, but it worked for me so I don't question it. It doesn't always work because people may not use it enough to give strong healing. 

  • @Deepthought

    That's interesting as the course tutor recommended Qi Gong to me as well. Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions.

    Yep, I had burnout from life in 2003 and then from canine behaviour work 2 years ago. Still going to go back to it though, adding the therapy work to my skills. Grin At least now I understand more about myself and hopefully a dx will open up appropriate support to avoid any further burnout.