Am I right to be concerned about the possibility of Chat Bots on this site?
There are a few concerning posts and, as I don't know much about these things, I'm not sure if I'm worrying over nothing here? Can they cause harm to individuals in any way on this type of chat site?
If I'm being ridiculous, someone please tell me so! (I will be more relieved than offended.)
I have noticed that recently some threads have been copied almost completely one to one and opened as new ones by other people?
Thank you, Cassandro for letting us know. Otherwise, I would be replying to them. I already replied to one.
Why is that?
It does not make any sense.
Why would people do that?
see if you can think of a possible reason which results in money for the person doing it?
I cannot think of any possible reason which results in money for the person doing it.
Am I stupid?
Cassandro said:Maybe you're a ThankBot?
...I am a SocioPhobic-Winged-Cat -- partly Cyborg, maybe...
A-a-anyway...(!) when I said "New Thread", I meant a new one about COPYBOTS... There are indeed so very very many types of SPAM, even here, but NAS is good at getting rid of them if they know about it (or if they pay attention)...
WebPM asks for specific Threads to be begun about specific problems. That is what we are/were told, anyway, which is why I suggested it. WebPM is the one to pay best attention to, with regards to technical matters.
Good Fortune to Yourself (and Thanks again!) anyway... :-)
I am an “up vote bot”!
Or like bot!
I read, I agree, I respond, then I go hide waiting for the next awesome piece of kindness given or shown.
One thing we were all guilty of during the R debacle was,,,,,,,caring about each other, ok not always spot on, some panicked and did all they could to try and deal with it within thier abilities, others just warned others by saying it must be avaoided, some even tried to understand R and allow time to see if indeed it was a new user very much struggling to communicate, maybe a first time web user, unsure of social etiquette.
regardless everyone was trying to do thier best to protect everyone else,
I like to think no one deliberately set out to be horrible, just try and protect.
Wishing all a good day , and much respect for our most enlightening new members, stick around I for one enjoy what you do and constantly learn new ideas and many new ways of thinking a thing through. You are awesome.
Loving this community so much.
I agree. I was thinking that it was like people on the forum had collectively formed an 'immune system' against spam and abuse. Although of course, as a mild hayfever sufferer, I know immune systems can overreact sometimes.
I suppose a CopyBot might have been deployed in the hope that it will manage to interactively regurgitate a formulaic "autistic journey"-type thread sufficiently well that it manages to earn enough trust from us to fall for it hook-line-and-sinker when it subsequently says click this harmless link...?
In this sense, one may perhaps view an online autistic community as a fertile plain in which to grow a botnet capable of subsequent DoS attacks on multiple third parties.
Large corporates are now more wary of phishing attacks and have trained their staff better accordingly, but -- oh hang on a minute -- none of you actually use this site from your place of work (or on the machine you use for work at home or banking), do you?!?!?
If any of you answered, "Erm... yes...?", that's probably the explanation. Persons unknown have twigged that autistic folk may be at times vulnerable and naïve. That makes us easier pickings for phishing and -- worst of all -- a very "social-engineer-able way-in" to many companies which happen to employ autistic staff. Far easier to get someone autistic to click this harmless link when they are relying on these forums for support, rather than hope that unsolicited emails offering n0rp videos might still be successful despite the multi-level email filtering that is employed by most companies.
Luckily -- so far, at least -- the fact that several of us (Disallowed Cynosure, Cassandro and others) have near-photographic memories is probably getting the better of many of the most ham-fisted attempts. Unfortunately, the authors will learn empirically from their failed attempts and evolve their unwelcome creations. And at least some of us may well have already been unwittingly pwned by the better attempts.
Somehow, we shall need to collectively tilt the playing-field for them so that they leave us alone and go after softer targets instead...
How about this lousy idea which won't work for long:
1. The NAS create their own daemon to peruse each thread OP and subsequent reply on the site, generating hashes of the bits which are NOT a quote of other users' content, then they store them in a SEPARATE database.
2. When a new thread or reply is created, it initially goes into a holding area where the NAS automated tools can scrutinise it but the rest of us can't yet see it.
3. An automated tool calculates a hash of the new content, then compares it against the existing database of hashes, resolving collisions as required.
4. Any content where a duplicate is being submitted will be flagged for human moderator approval, alongside a copy of the original content which hashed to the same value.
I was going to type some replies to this Thread... but then you come here and fairly explode a grand amount of perspicacity.
I do not not know what to say...! But do you recall the ASCII Thread which I began a while back? All of what you and Cassandro (and "Ellie") say... is fairly screaming out for this New Thread!! WebPM even once joined your good self in conversation, yet I interrupted it, suggesting a new Thread there as well - do you recall that?
THIS THREAD IS LONG! NEW THREAD! NEW THREAD, PUHLEEEESE!
(If I have to start it, then suggest titles, please...?)
Suggested title: Potential security risks of using the NAS forum at home or one's place of employment.
Glad Tidings... I am still looking, and I see this. (I am not good at chat, though). Thanks... I am a bit calmer, now!
DongFeng5 said:1. The NAS create their own daemon to peruse each thread OP and subsequent reply on the site, generating hashes of the bits which are NOT a quote of other users' content, then they store them in a SEPARATE database.
DongFeng5 said:2. When a new thread or reply is created, it initially goes into a holding area where the NAS automated tools can scrutinise it but the rest of us can't yet see it.
DongFeng5 said:3. An automated tool calculates a hash of the new content, then compares it against the existing database of hashes, resolving collisions as required.
DongFeng5 said:4. Any content where a duplicate is being submitted will be flagged for human moderator approval, alongside a copy of the original content which hashed to the same value.
...The "Quote"function does not always work correctly, and so I had to quote four times in order to re-quote all of that. I do so in the hope (...) that NAS (WebPM, probably) notices it and reads it.
Concerning that last Post with the four quotes, there...
Thanks, DongFeng5 for the reply. I tried about 5 times to edit this Post, to erase the Quotes to shorten it... but I cannot! Another thing to note, maybe: always leave spaces between multiple Quotes...?