Love

This sums up my kind of love Former Member 

My love is not kind and gentle like your love. It’s not fair and gives nothing, other than itself. It fierce and unrelenting and it leads me, I don’t lead it. 

I don’t know about transcendent love, other than what I learned from you today, but this sums up my love. 

https://youtu.be/HtpQmU6v6kQ

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  • Greetings to Miss BlueRay. I Posted all of that because I had to do so before it might disappear, as a technical problem with this Forum. Here is the reason for it, as I suggested upon the "Snow has gone" Thread.

    Straight to the point: You often mention "unconditional love", or that "love" is just how you are and do not understand it for yourself...? Apart from this curiousity, I am not interested (sorry!)... yet, you seem to also express that you can *adapt yourself to fit the point-of-view of others*...?

    ...If this is all true, then, from what you post, I myself might identify with this certain quality, which is a very difficult, uncommon, and careful matter. An "Animal Psychic" ("Pet Psychic"). This is *very* different from an "Animal Behavioural Specialist", who simply observes what they know an animal/pet to behave, yet does not actually "communicate" with that Animal...

    Bottom line is... An "Animal Psychic" is able to shut off everything else and feel "unconditional love" in order to "hear/feel/see" an animal in order to "communicate" correctly with them!
    The reason I suggest this at yourself is that you seem to have that ability, yet have not had this "disallowed" aspect suggested at yourself yet...?

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  • Greetings to Miss BlueRay. I Posted all of that because I had to do so before it might disappear, as a technical problem with this Forum. Here is the reason for it, as I suggested upon the "Snow has gone" Thread.

    Straight to the point: You often mention "unconditional love", or that "love" is just how you are and do not understand it for yourself...? Apart from this curiousity, I am not interested (sorry!)... yet, you seem to also express that you can *adapt yourself to fit the point-of-view of others*...?

    ...If this is all true, then, from what you post, I myself might identify with this certain quality, which is a very difficult, uncommon, and careful matter. An "Animal Psychic" ("Pet Psychic"). This is *very* different from an "Animal Behavioural Specialist", who simply observes what they know an animal/pet to behave, yet does not actually "communicate" with that Animal...

    Bottom line is... An "Animal Psychic" is able to shut off everything else and feel "unconditional love" in order to "hear/feel/see" an animal in order to "communicate" correctly with them!
    The reason I suggest this at yourself is that you seem to have that ability, yet have not had this "disallowed" aspect suggested at yourself yet...?

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  • Thank You for your reply, Miss BlueRay.

    To all who may read, if further interested in "Animal Communication" then have a go at the Links which I posted. I also have an interest in all of this, and began another Thread awhile back... but I leave that for another time to those who understand it, if ever...!

    Concerning especially the middle part of BlueRay's penultimate paragraph... I dare say no more, and I have suggested what I wanted to suggest, and I have received response, and I say that I am grateful for it.

    My work here in this Thread is done.

  • You are very perceptive Dissallowed Cynosure, very perceptive indeed and I both thank you and value your conversation. As you might imagine, I’m not an easy person to talk to so thank you for your patience, I really appreciate it. 

    It’s not possible to turn off unconditional love. Verbal communication and communication via actions, whether they be easy to understand, such as a thumbs up or less obvious forms of bodily communication, are only one form of communication and a very crude one at that. 

    You could say, the whole universe is one big ball of communication. Take your hand for example. How many processes of communication do you think take place for you to move it? 

    Think of radio waves and how they are a form of communication and how they work. 

    We are all in constant communication with everything around us and not around us, constantly, even when we sleep. 

    For the universe to operate so harmoniously as it does, there has to be a universal form of communication. Verbal language is one expression of the universal communication and it’s not like the other forms are different to verbal language, it’s just that verbal language is vibrating at a diffferent frequency and if a person’s capacity to connect with themselves is distracted by thoughts and more precisely, if they’re believing their thoughts, they are effectively blocking out other avenues of communication. It’s not a special gift. Everybody is born with the capacity to communicate in ways other than verbal language. Verbal language is actually a very inferior method of communication not to mention exhausting with so many oppprtunities for misunderstandings.

    With verbal language, you also have to be mindful of its job. For example, words are introduced into society, with specific meanings at very strategic points in history or in our lives. Not all words are used for good. They are a form of control. You can read all about this in a book by a German guy, written in German then translated to English. It’s called plastic words I think. It’s only a small book but it’s not an easy read, but he shows how different words are introduced into societies at certain points in time and what their impact has had. 

    Communicating with animals is not much different to communicating with people although the quality of their communication is different, meaning they don’t complain endlessly like many humans do. 

    You don’t have to gaze at an animal to talk to it. But you are correct, their communication is precise but it’s not complex, not in the least and we don’t talk when we don’t need to. We leave that job to humans, they seem to enjoy it. And don’t be fooled, their communication isn’t blocked at all. They communicate freely whether the world around them are communicating badly or not. 

    There’s nothing really to master about animal communication. If you simply stop listening to your thoughts, you will be able to communicate in a much less complicated manner and you can talk to the animals without effort. Although admittedly, you might need a bit of practice. 

  • Hmmm. Apologies, yet I actually see that you *are* busy just now/then upon another Thread. This is all quite alright, and is the way of things -of "Social Media"...! Whilst in this state, it is not entirely possible to review all of what I meant, and I DO understand that. And, as many may know, I only post for a short time and then I sign off (!). It is late, and so I may do that after this Post.

    Thank You for a Reply. A thing to do with "Animal Communication" is that in general, one carries on as one is built to do so, yet *during actual communication*, one switches off, to "feel unconditional love", to be, alas, vulnerable --- *during actual communication*!

    If you are able to switch "unconditional love" on and off, then it is this:

    - stopping talking in order to hear and to listen

    - stopping moving in order to percieve the movement of another

    - stopping feeling & thinking (!) in order to gain the feelings & thoughts of another (...!)

    ...If all of this, as a human, is able to be done, whilst gazing at "another animal", then that is the start of the sort of thing which I am suggesting. And what I am suggesting is proper Animal Communication... it is just like any other sense (touch, taste, hearing, seeing, smelling)... and it is a very complex thing, not always available, very precise, and very much blocked by common civilisation.

    The links I posted are to those who have mastered it, sort of...! And as I say... Please do not reply in haste, and it is alright to tell me if you are not interested (I was only curious), and I must sign off now because it is quite late.

    Fair Play to you, Madame.

  • Ok, first of all, don’t worry, you didn’t offend me. It’s actualky not possible to be offended by anybody. Nobody has the power to offend anybody. 

    Moving on to your long post. 

    Love is the only thing I understand. I understand it intimately.  It is conditional love that I was struggling to understand but I understand that now. 

    I never adapt myself to meet anybody’s point of view. But when I work with clients, I meet them where they’re at and I use language they can relate to but I do not dilute my approach in the least. 

    Yes, of course I communicate with animals. I also communicate with other objects, or what many people call objects. My car talks to me, my meditation cushion talks to me. Lots of stuff talks to me. I wrote a piece earlier which demonstrates the crudeness, the clumsiness and the baseness of verbal communication and actions. I rarely use these forms of communication. I find them barely efficient at all and rarely use this form of communication with my many friends, around the world. It’s even more basic, than for example, the paper and pen letter compared to an email.