I have a 13 year old son who I believe has PDA. He's recently been self medicating with smoking weed and I really don't know how to deal with him or this situation.
It started in the summer, we tried all the usual methods of punishment such as grounding him, taking his stuff off him, turning off the WiFi etc. He doesn't seem to understand consequences and ran away because we refused to turn the WiFi on. We grounded him and he climbed out of the window in the middle of the night to visit his friends! We tried taking his mobile phone and he became violent, I called the police and he didn't even care. He just sat there and smirked in front of the officer and was disrespectful. He has punched doors, mirrors and throws objects at us if we challenge him on his rudeness or try and take control of a situation regardless of consistency in our approach.
I regularly search his room and confiscate anything to do with weed or smoking. I do not give him any money but he 'earns' his share by rolling for others and he seems to know a lot of other teens who use it so is always able to access it even without any money.
I have tried talking to him to reassure him that we (his parents) are here to support him trying to stop and this is a dangerous path he is taking but he is so cocky, he just tells me that all his mates do it and there is no need to worry! He does it to reduce anxiety and 'chill'.
He was supposed to be assessed in school by an ed psych in September but refuses to go to school a lot so the ed psych made a home visit and chatted to his dad and I instead. We agreed on things like him not having to wear a full school uniform (he wears black skinny jeans and smart black trainers instead), also rather than going to internal exclusion most of the time as this was proving an ineffective method of punishment for him to sit with his head of year instead. He is struggling to go to school at all at the moment even on a reduced timetable and I feel it is only a short matter of time before he is permanently excluded due to his persistent rudeness and inability to do anything he is told to in the class room.
We tried taking him to counselling in the summer, but he refused to engage with the counsellor making our sessions pointless.
His behaviour is making both his dad and I ill and we are now struggling to cope with him. We have a younger child aged 11 with ASD but his behaviour is not aggressive and we are not having any issues with him.
We cannot go on living like this, unfortunately we do not have any relatives he can stay with to give us a break, I know if I called social services he would never forgive me. Does anyone have any idea how I can move forward?
Any strategies or advice would be welcome as we are desperate, and his abusive behaviour is scaring our younger son which I cannot continue to allow.
Many thanks Marie
Yes, I was 13/14 when I started smoking weed, then in 2006 (after more than 20 years of smoking) I joined NA and AA and stopped all drugs and drink for 7 years, after which, I started to smoke it again. I realised that smoking weed actually helped me, a lot, in many ways but I could also see that maybe it wasn’t the best option. However, it was the best option I had at the time, although since I’ve discovered Ritalin, I’m thinking that I could put together all the things that do work, in a way that I get the best out of all of them and none of the side effects. For example, running, walking, strength training, yoga and meditation all help me and are crucial in fact, to my health and well being and recently I’ve discovered that prayer and reading the bible also help, a lot. But I also found out that none of these things work if I don’t smoke weed as well but equally, if I smoke too much weed, I don’t get round to doing any of the other things. So it’s a balance and now, with my many years of life experience (I’m 51 now) and my many experiements etc, I can see what might work very well for me. It’s just a matter of putting them altogether and I’ve got a good feeling that this year, (2019) I’m going to do just that.
Your son is still very young but I would say that smoking weed is probably less harmful than pharmaceutical drugs. My son (who isn’t autistic) started smoking weed at the age of 13 and he’s 30 now and rarely smokes it. For him it wipes him out and he doesn’t get nothing done. Some of his friends still smoke it but many don’t and some can take it or leave it. Maybe if you look at it as something that is currently helping your son and that it doesn’t mean he’ll necessarily to smoking it for the rest of his life. But seriously, the fact that you’re even discussing it with us shows that you care very much for your son and what’s best for him and that’s the foundational ingredient for a good relationship. It’s really hard for your son to let you know what’s going on inside of him and if the smoking gives him some comfort then that’s a good thing and with some time and a lot of patience etc etc he may begin to be able to open up to you more.
I smoked dope most days from the age of 15 until I was 57. I used to stop for a month every year, just to prove to myself that I could. During a couple of years of travelling I only smoked it now and then. I gave up tobacco and bought a vape thing for dope. I stopped smoking the modern skunk when I was about 48 as it has negligible or no CBD content. Resin is better as it has CBD. Now, I’m 62, I only smoke dope occasionally. I don’t drink, it gives me hallucinations. Like everything in life, it’s a matter of moderation, not a teenage strong point, I know.
Thank you for sharing your experience, you sound like you have a plan for 2019 putting together all these things which work for you - it's probably a bit of trial and error to find the perfect recipe, but all sounds good and positive.
It's reassuring to hear how both you and your son have been smoking for such a long period of time. I think sometimes I need to remember just how common smoking weed is and not automatically fear the worst.
I caught him smoking out of his window last night, I didn't shout at him, but reminded him that he was not allowed to bring weed into the house and that we would talk about it tomorrow (today). I know I should confiscate it along with his grinder, tobacco pouch, rizlas and whatever else he's got but this will prompt him to go into a rage and possibly become violent. Maybe I should just try and talk to him instead. What would you have done if your parents tried to confiscate your weed when you were a teen? Probably made you more determined to get some more!
Anyway I'll stop rambling!
Hi Graham, you are certainly an experienced smoker!! It's interesting you stopped for a month a year just to prove that you could. I wonder if this suggests that weed is not necessarily addictive or whether the nature of addiction is just in one's mind?
It's great you gave up tobacco and now vape instead, I think tobacco is probably way more harmful and addictive than dope anyway. I didn't think there was still resin about - I thought it was all weed these days! Resin mmm takes me back to when I was a teen! Guess maybe it depends which area you live in though.
Hopefully it won't be too long before cannabis is legalised anyway. I can't imagine grown ups like you or I going to meet some dodgy drug dealer to get your dope!
Take care Marie x
Definitely try talking to him, autism aside telling any teenager they can't do something is like waving the proverbial red flag, and will probably make him more determined to do it.
Talk to him about why he does it, how it makes him feel maybe try to come up with a compromise?
Any way I wish you luck
Thank you Heather, I will be contacting the helpline in Monday.
Sounds like smoking weed is definitely the best thing for your partner. Fingers crossed you have some luck with the CBD oil. My husband tried this for his fibromyalgia but it gave him a very dry mouth. Everyone's different though so good luck x
Sorry just curious did it help with fibromyalgia as my pain management specialist is suggesting that is the cause of my chronic pain, and would love to know if it helped pain? Partner has been suggesting weed for years! As I know it works for pain but hate the feeling of being stoned!
Hello, The following site sells a stronger version of CBD oil that may be of help to you. It has helped my Father with some of his Parkinson’s symptoms.
It used to be called CBD Brothers, it seems to have undergone a rebrand.
Hi Marie, when my parents tried to stop me when I was younger, I simply left home. I used to live with one friend at her parents house and after a while I went to live with another friend. My parents did however, begrudgingly, come to accept me smoking dope/weed after I demanded that my mum listen to what I said about it and then try it with me, which she did. They could never have stopped me and when they did try to stop me from doing things, I simply started to tell lies to them, which I hated and it put an even greater gap between us.
I never smoke it when I have a problem that I need to sort out. Weed helps me but not when I have a problem. I never knew exactly how it helped, that awareness came to me only recently.
As someone else suggested, talk to him about it. After talking to him you could say that you will accept it as the most important thing is that you keep an open, loving, supportive relationship between yourselves and it will make him feel like you value and respect him if you appear to go easier on him after listening to what he has to say. He will feel like making you proud rather than hating you because you totally reject his smoking. I don’t think life with an autistic child will ever be easy or simple and it does take being outside of the box sometimes. Best wishes X