Autism and ADHD

Hi everyone. I received a high functioning autism diagnosis just over a year ago (at the age of 36) and have been dealing with understanding it ever since. 

I have been having regular sessions with a clinical psychologist at my local mental health hospital as as well as the diagnosis I was also told I was suffering from depression and anxiety. 

A large part of our chats revolve around my concerns about getting back into employment. She has mentioned, as have I read online so many times, that employers love people on the spectrum who have crazy attention to detail. 

This is when I feel like a fraud. I make stupid mistakes all the time, I lose focus on longer tasks and flip flop between interests. In my previous jobs I was able to do really technically complicated things like software development but made silly errors and was unable to do simple data entry into a spreadsheet. This theme has followed me since primary school. 

Today I accidentally came across an article saying that it is common for people on the spectrum to also suffer from ADHD and it then listed the common symptoms of ADHD. I tick an awful lot of them. 

What I don't understand is how can someone on the spectrum, who are supposed to have incredible attention to detail, also have something like ADHD where they continually make silly careless mistakes - I don't see how they are compatible. 

I'm going to raise this next week at my next session - it very complicated as I am, as far as the diagnostician and the clinical psychologist I've been seeing, autistic. But as I say, I often feel like a fraud and before I start looking for a job openly stating that I'm autistic, only to say "oh, but I don't have some of the really useful attributes",  I want to make sure I fully understand it. 

Does that make sense? Any thoughts?

Thanks. 

  • Hi Procrastinator, thanks for reminding me about this thread .

    I have since been confirmed as NOT ADHD, which is fine. Although I display some ADHD traits they overlap with ASD and they were not present when I was a child, so it was decided that I was ASD with some ADHD traits. 

    Interestingly I have since got myself a job as well! I saw an advertisement online for an overnight cleaner job at a top end spa castle so emailed and got the job. 

    I work 9:30pm to 6am 2 nights a week which fits in with child care. It's laid back and there's very few people to talk to and there's no multitasking so it's perfect. It had massively boosted my confidence as well which is brilliant .

    Hopefully this is me on the road to rebuilding myself. 

  • Hello Chuckalicious,

    Thank you for this post! I'm curious if you have made any progress. I was diagnosed first with ADHD and later at 43 with ASD 1. 

    I am still struggling to understand what's what. The ADHD part of me loves stimulation, new experiences etc and the ASD side of me is highly sensitive, easily overwhelmed and anxious (and gets backlash after social occasions) etc.

    I totally get what you say about feeling a fraud and not fitting the idea that many people have about ASD (like good attention to detail). I really like meeting new people and and superficially do great (but easily get tired and bored and can't keep it up). 

    The ASD diagnosis especially makes sense of my childhood, I never understood what was going on and it was all very bewildering.


    In a way I am really grateful that it was the health professionals who told me I was autistic & adhd and that I didn't have to pursue it myself. I think there has been a lot of progress with understanding female autism. But I think there is  still a lot of work to be done on female autism/adhd combination. 

    A really good booklet was published in Dutch but needs to be translated into English. It is called: l"iving in the zipper between adhd and asd". It talks about the specific challenges and that it is not a homogenous mass - but some days you will be more adhd and some days more asd and that you need to cater to the needs of both. Both ASD and ADHD have executive functioning issues but stem from different needs - which makes that we grapple badly with executive functioning + issues! 

    It makes it also hard to tell people about the diagnosis, because it doesn't seem to fit the expectations people have.

    With regard to work I totally get you. And I assume that the job that would keep you happy would not be the kind of programming job/detail to attention job that some people with autism excel at... the huge obstacle is that the kind of job I would enjoy also puts great great pressure on my autistic side. And the kind of job that would suit my autistic side would make me crazily bored and desperate.

    It is like having two chicks in your nest you have to feed: one voracious one and one timid one and the boisterous bird like threatens your timid chick so you have to not only make sure they both get fed but also make sure that the timid chick doesn't get thrown out of the nest by the more boisterous chick? If that makes sense, which it probably does not :D 

  • it makes a lot of sense. im not sure if this is going to sound patrionising but you are in the right hands trying to find out how you process thngs and will then be able to understand yourself in a lot more depth and understanding why you do certain things. the things is now a days there a lot of help out there to help autistic people. i work with a lot of adults with autism and the spectrum is so wide but with high fuctioning autism that is always seem to be overlooked so one thing i would say is to be honest and open about things so you can recieve that help 

  • Just to bring this back to your attention.. the Palooza starts on Monday with itinerary already available. It’s an invaluable resource. 

    As some of you will know I am a podcast user.. there are several about autism and also adhd my latest one is Michelle Chalfont The adult chair which talks about ways to handle our emotions. After Christmas she sent emails everyday for a month to encourage journaling ( I haven’t read all the emails yet let alone do the journaling) and oddly enough I am receiving a daily journal for one month from a practioner of the Alexander Technique.. So even if we can’t find resources in our area there are things of interest online. 

    Even if you don’t have adhd there are usually practical solutions and advice on a range of topics and I have been encouraged the last 2 years by the Palooza ( and even though it’s directed towards women you chaps out there might find some of it helpful too as Linda says in the intro). 

  • Hello all those interested in adhd.. the women’s adhd Palooza is due soon it’s similar to but not the same as the adhd expo. There is usually very useful and practical information offered some of which crosses over with asd so useful perhaps to a wider audience than those who know they have adhd. Here is the link http://adhdpalooza.com/

  • Hope it's ok to post this link to the pre register of the adhd expo. It's a good way to learn more about adhd and strategies to help. 

    www.adhdexpo.com/

  • Good night lovely, be stong and don't forget that we care for you very much  x 

  • Seems quite a patriarchal set up Mr Lone. Lol we shall honour ourselves to you by the island firelight Fire ....Anyone read Lord of the Flies! 

    anyone know about mr Tom? 

    Good night everyone. Good night LW x

  • I'll take that as a compliment miss Ellie,ah missy just posted underneath me!gave me quite a fright.seriousely though! Look at us all on here! What kind empathetic people we are.we deserve each other as companions.

    Now if only I can find that flipping island,autopia! I promise I would protect all inhabitants.I also believe given time that a hug from a fellow empathetic would be very healing,it just needs the right person to understand.

    nite nite ladies xxxx ()()()().

    my wife is late finishing tonite? Hope she rings soon.

  • You are all special. Sleep tight 

  • Lone, You're are such a soppy sod! 

    But Missy and Spotty are both remarkable women x

  • But missy we only say what we see! I see awesome in your soul.

    like I said to spotty,I only see a caring but maybe wounded lady, together we surely can help? Even if I only have a bandaid .my mum used to kiss baddies better lol.not even gonna go there.

    Apparently I am kind and caring! Ok then thank you,I won't argue with you lot so believe me when I compliment as I only do honesty.

    Do any of you see me being this nice to just anyone? Big hug,

  • Psst.. it's true and I'm sticking with it! Lol

    hope you're ok x

  • mm Ellie I definitely don't see myself as that!! But thank you

  • Spotty Good I hope you will find it encouraging. 

  • Misfit is pretty friggin' awesome, isn't she! Heart️ 

  • Thanks Misfit, you are a mine of information, I for one will look into it. ()

  • http://www.adhdexpo.com/?blog I've just heard about this years Tara McGillicuddy adhd expo. It's free and it's a series of webinars to listen to on lots of topics. It's at the beginning of October and you need to register if you are interested.