PANDAS can see that autism can happen at any time, in response to an illness. This research paper goes further linking any immune stressor to physically changing the brain chemistry/biology to improve your chances at living. You actually avoid human contact and wash more often - on a subconscious level. Manifest as ASD and OCD and others.
You have seen the opposite in mice infected with a parasite, who seem more attracted to cats, - https://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777
"The results are novel, as this sensitive and comprehensive testing has revealed how prenatal and early postnatal immune activation may regulate core behavioral signs associated with ASD and certain other developmental disorders through changes in signal flow between different structural components of behavior-driving neural circuits," said Bolshakov. "These findings may be of a significant translational value, as they provide important clues to understanding the mechanisms of these disorders and potentially their treatment."
i read this article as well it was in the autism magazine they give you at the NAS show, makes really interesting reading. The article was basically saying if a child has been diagnosed with either OCD or an ASC the question should be asked have they had a recent infection that has initiated an abnormal immune response.
It's been noticed that PANDAS can be confused for other conditions, so they want to eliminate false diagnosis.
Lagrangian said:My mum did have an infection just before my birth. Of course, asking if you have had any infections should be key in ASD tests from now on. But they probably will ask for evidence, so they don't skew the stats. I just now have the next stage of my ADHD assessment and it asks about birth and childhood infections. But nothing like that in my ASD assessment yet.
PANDAS aren't autism. To alleviate your concerns in the other thread about PANDAS, you can't "catch" autism either.
Simple... Just looking for explanations.
Did you an autism diagnosis can be reversed? dr. Atwood did for a patient. Said he was now the not Aspergers side of the spectrum. Simple.
And autism can be confused with other conditions like narcissism.
edited to remove cure for autism. Autism cannot be cured. As I have said many times on his forum. Autism is a life long condition.
However, Narcissism is very real.
Join the convo on https://community.autism.org.uk/f/health-and-wellbeing/13528/streptococcal-infections-and-asd---important
there is more on PANDAS which.
We like healthy discussion. Old doesn't make the research bad. Has anyone challenged the research?
Agreed the states are behind on research. But do they lead in this field?
IMHO both Autism and Narcissism are empathy issues (kinda). We can use the criminal law. Is their harm? is their intent?.
Both Narcissists and autistics may harm people. However, a narcist does not care and may continue to provoke, intending to cause more harm.
It's very easy to be a Narcist with any diagnosis.
Yes, agreed. I also fear that it’s quite dangerous to start saying that autism can be cured on a forum frequented by parents of autistic children, many going out of their minds with worry and some likely to grasp at any straws of hope that their child can be cured.
Article is 10 years old and from what I can see based on outdated papers from 2003 in the states which is already behind on diagnostics
The question was about the source of where the association of Asperger's Syndrome with Narcissistic Personality disorder came from, so my response was not about the relative accuracy or modernity of the papers ~ but the fact that people mistake or confuse one condition for the other. Such as for example is explained again here via this link:
And this link:
Lagrangian said:We like healthy discussion.
When I replied to your original response I provided accurate information for you, and a link, with no agenda, even though you attacked me the other day without provocation, or any logic. Your response would indicate you only like healthy discussion if it goes with whatever you want the conclusion to be.
Lagrangian said:Both Narcissists and autistics may harm people. However, a narcist does not care and may continue to provoke, intending to cause more harm.
Funny that this thread has turned into one about narcissism after you mentioned it, it's become more of a theme than the original post. Almost like you are continuing to provoke. Attention whoring.
I think it's important that people know that they can't "catch" or "cure" autism. That's where a dangerous line of thinking starts. If you are comfortable with that fine, it doesn't really fit in here though.
Maybe you have not been reading everything I have written. It's understandable. I write a lot.
So just two things.
1. Autism cannot be cured.
2. Neither can Narcistic people
Yes, agreed it is quite dangerous. So is stemming discussion.
Did anyone sign the petition to ban autism cures, that I posted?
anything else? :D
Nope, I think you are doing enough to offend people here with talk of "catching" autism, "cures", and linking narcissism to the community.
You've also done enough to show your true childish colours.
You might have realised that I changed what I said to stop comments like this.
And see my recent post on how Atwood, undiagnosed someone.
He trained his patient well enough to be below the level.
Mind you you would be right, you cannot cure autism but you can mask it well enough not to be caught.