A Query About a Theory: Of The Mind.

Good evening, to all. I attempt here a thing about how to "interpret" life in general. This is one way in which I see things, and I wonder if anyone else can at all understand it. (Or is interested.)

As if in Metaphor. This finishes up as either a MAP or as a SPIDER-WEB (pick whichever you prefer).
- First of all, consider a START POINT. This is, for example, when you are conceived (!), and then Born. (Frequency starts from Zero.)
- Next, as you grow, all that you perceive (hear, see, feel, smell, eat, etc.) spreads out from that, in all directions, into the Map or Spider-Web. (Unconscious Frequencies.)
- Finally... you turn into "an Adult". (Conscious Frequencies.)

This is a *greatly* simplified explanation... but what I explain is that, as memories form, your own MAP or SPIDER-WEB is basically a system of Pathways, made out of "Junk" (Emotions, Experiences, Food, Smells, etc.). It is individual to yourself, and may not always be able to make sense to others. Even identical twins would have slightly differing "Junk-Webs/Maps".

I can elaborate, yet appreciate feedback as to whether anyone else "gets it" so far. Thank You Kindly.

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    To “Disallowed Cynosure”, I THANK you for your reply.

    You are trying to find meaning in mind.

    It is a complex web of interconnecting organic strings,electrical impulses trigger areas and leave code which may sit unused or be retrieved later for use.

    Being organic it can change and adapt it is not HARD wired.Not fixed. 

    The brain being organic has much variability between each being.

    For the sake of any future reference, THIS is where the "Live"  Posting starts, (at around Two A.M.) yet I was replying to Posts before this one...

    Yet this Post is True, apart from my "trying to find meaning in mind", yet the rest of the Post writes correction for me. There is no "meaning" to any "mind", which was why I chose to use the term "Junk" (or Percept), which is explained in the replies... Which I should say (again) that I posted all at once at around Two-A.M., ...and now it is Three A.M. as I post *this* reply to the "live" reply. (Please do not tell me off too harshly, anyone...)

  • ... Um, okay, this is all for now. Yet I have to read the "Live" Post, and consider that.... but I am not at all good at "live" "chat", and so after correcting mistakes I might Sign off, now. Thanks very much.

  • To Mr. LoneWarrior, of that post again... continued...

    "Questioning the connection between the memory and the now".

    By now, I stated THREE elements (JunkWebMap, External Wind, Spider/Tracer).
    The JunkWebMap expands as a brain and body grows, until one's death.(Upon death, it is becomes a part of the WIND (!))
    The Wind/External is everything else going onto infinity (...).
    The Spider/Tracer is the link between the two, and is indeed the NOW, whether one is awake or asleep (!)...

    As I receive more feedback upon my Theory (at last!), I think that with regards to the Spider/Tracer, that this is a CONNECTOR, which is able to change size, shape, Frequency, Ability, etc...
    The Spider/Tracer may be Autistic, or NT, or able to access "Psychic" abilities, as I have already stated... and as you stated it may be Dyslexic (but I do not know how that works, because I am not that myself). Above all, it can only travel the Pathways, whether it itself understands everything upon that pathway or not.


    Yet another Metaphor to picture:
    - JunkWebMap = A lifeform, growing, expanding.
    - Wind/External = Absolutely everything else, ever.
    - Spider/Tracer = Active link between the two.
    ... Spider/Tracer is growing and navigating a JunkWebMap, which is always being altered by the Wind/External.

    (...It is so annoying that I cannot post *Illustrations*, is what it is...!)

  • To Mr. LoneWarrior of that post (now that I have the time(!))...

    You are excellent, I believe, so far, in following this Thread, and so I offer again a Thank You! Thus I shall admit that this was my first time in actually expressing The Theory yet I required feedback from others (non-hostile), in order to work through it. And, as you (all) see, I have finished BASE EXPLANATION of it and it seems to be alright after all... I have attracted interest, at least, and upon that, I offer further understanding (via questions).

    ...Oh, bother. This is another long "Thank You", and so for the sake of keeping "posts" readable, I must next post what I meant to say in my next post instead?...

  • This is in reply to Mr."LoneWarrior" there.

    Thank you; you do indeed somewhat understand. The fact is, the JunkWeb/Map is *never* finalised/completed... it continues to spread and to expand and to add more to the experiences, so long as one is alive.
    The "Frequencies" and Junk itself, are stored not as a fixed thing, yet may be flipped, dented, turned, and all sorts of alterations in manner... by the "WIND" (The External Matter, which is Infinite).

    Finally, I must say that we use the term "Junk" because that is what I myself wrote...
    Were this an 'official paper of the scientific sort'?... I would have used the word PERCEPT (as a Noun): "Junk Web/Map" would be something like "Percept Network/Status"... yet that last is hardly as catchy as JunkWebMap, surely...? (!)

    If anyone can in their minds (or dictionaries) substitute the word "Junk" for "Percept", then that would mean the same thing. Yet it is a matter which is down to the choice of any individual, I believe. For the sake of this Thread, I continue to say "Junk"...

  • To "DeepThought", here:
    In Quoting your good self (although not in strict written order, I apologise):

    " I use the Bold Format so as to different what is my writing, what is others and so that I do not get referentially lost or confused, as I reference every statement with and through every other statement to achieve orderly contextual progression ~ or at least hopefully!"

    " we each have an individual writing style anyway ~ as it is would be yours perhaps?"

    " Yet in a month you have worked out how to use the quote function - it took me a few months if I recall correctly."

    What I quote of yourself there, are three VERY VERY good points concerning use of the Internet... especially for Autistic persons like ourselves? And you are correct about all that you state, and I am grateful for that and for your stating it.
    Yet continuation of this sort of topic, may be for which I had already begun *yet another* Thread for:

    community.autism.org.uk/.../autistic-people-on-the-n-a-s-internet-and-how-to-use-it

    ...That Thread is long, and so it has a sequel, titled the same yet added "...#2"

    community.autism.org.uk/.../autistic-people-on-the-n-a-s-internet-and-how-to-use-it-2


    With regards to that which I quote from you, there...
    Upon the first Thread, I initially state that I am new to the Internet, yet am not new to writing or to the using of computers. However, the using of BOLDface is one option which my particular device - an E-Reader - does not offer (!). And so to highlight certain words, I can only USE CAPITAL LETTERS, which is then regarded as "shouting", yet I can do nothing else --- no Italics, Highlighting, Bold, Underline... nothing.
    I can use various punctuation ("#!/?&) and that is all. (Yet also perhaps appears as if I had used a vulgarity there!)
    Perhaps we are indeed alike, in requiring a certain "individual writing style", in order to sort out the general mess which we read upon a screen. (...For instance, I recently did a Search for "Star Trek" here, and that Thread was also very long & complex!)
    Finally, my own main regret is that we are not allowed - by NAS - to "post duplicate posts", for it might have been more constructive to continue this particular conversation upon the other Thread(s), to which I give address(es) for in this post.
    (Thus, I may draw attention to all of this here, in that second other Thread, at a later time, if you do not mind?...)

  • Good evening... Believe it or not, as I was about to "COPY & PASTE" very many replies, including to you, you are currently ONLINE and then write this, and so I am uncertain of what to do with what I have just spent many hours in writing...! This is a "live" reply, I think, to inform you that I am Posting what I wrote in anycase; yet in reply to this "live" Post, I may have to go off and write another reply. So thank you again, and give me a few minutes(!)...

  • To “Disallowed Cynosure”, I THANK you for your reply.

    You are trying to find meaning in mind.

    It is a complex web of interconnecting organic strings,electrical impulses trigger areas and leave code which may sit unused or be retrieved later for use.

    Being organic it can change and adapt it is not HARD wired.Not fixed. 

    The brain being organic has much variability between each being.

    Mine equals:Dyslexia.Aspergers and part. Neurotypicals as having associated my whole life attempting to be one has had a profound effect on my stored input.

    I am Happy you liked my reply. I am also happy to have listened and joined in with your thoughts/Enquiries.

    THANK you.

  • Um... To "LoneWarrior", with respect to yourself, and for the sake of common courtesy, and also out of genuine gratitude (and relief), I post this genuine THANK YOU ...Just now... to give notification that I have not forgotten about this Thread, despite my not posting anything upon it apart from this THANK YOU ...Just for today...

    I actually had to break out a Laptop, Save the entire Thread, re-save it as TEXT, Print it out, and then read it more carefully... and the next thing I know, as I write this, it is a Half-Past-Two in the Morning of a Sunday. I am genuinely grateful, yet also a tad annoyed, and am a trifle put out, concerning use of "the Internet" in general... Yet I mean it when I state a "Thank You", of course. (Yet I have to sign off now...)

  • I like disallowed cynosure iamme81 and deepthought.I enjoy.I am happy.

  • Thank you.

    I want to try and understand your theories,I read your threads and much of it I do understand, I have to try harder, are  you questioning the connection between,memory and the now?

    ,working memory as in now,deep memory already stored and less accessed-new input as in new junk,taking the input or wind as it comes to the mind?so much information being blown into the mind,some more significant than others, smell,touch,visual,sound,and feeling.

    I want to understand,I am trying to organise my thoughts to give reason, Not wishing to stray off topic but I must add my dyslexia as a reason for my difficulty in organising my current ideas, my working memory feels the wind of new information or junk mixed with memories of past or deep stored seldom used junk.

    My map is fragmented,it varies in type to neurotypicals and even neurodiverse maps. The pathways are interconnected differently, my spider scuttles around taking various pieces of new input or junk,it can only take a few at a time,the wind can be strong and constant,the spider attempts to store input or junk into my working memory for processing, the junk becomes overwhelming and starts to be deposited into other areas,some harder to access,others areas easily accessed,and some discarded as unimportant or not understood.

    A junk web map in my case that is tangled and accessing many bits of data or junk, old new or conceived as in two pieces made into one new piece of junk,created while residing in my working memory area. A mixing area of past present and new input.

    I hope I have not deviated to much from your theory of the mind, I am also learning the use of technologie, I cannot use quote,I can copy and paste some things,I was shown how to place links,I can post pictures,I cannot control them,sometimes they do not appear as file size is to big,some just disappear altogether, the pictures,links,quotes or junk  I try to move or use blow in the wind they end up where they will,like my mind? In various areas,not always correct,maybe in working memory area for all here to see, still travelling in the wind never reaching the destination,lost. Or passing right past working or temporary area into deep storage unseen ready to access but for eyes here unseen,lost.

    Please continue your threads, the junk will eventually start to become easier to assemble into your understanding, you have changed so much in style and abilities since your first thread/post.

    i enjoy your mind very much.() 

  • Disambiguating Cynosure said:

    Thank you, and I am Glad of your input as well, "DeepThought"... however, forgive my beginning with a slight regret..

    Oh dear, oh dear (*sigh*)... The more I use the Internet, the more I find how it as bad as real life, when I cannot correct misunderstandings face-to-face. The mistakes here are the fault of no-one (I think), apart from use of plain English versus Internet Speak & Timelines...

    Greetings and enhanced positive affirmations, Disallowed Cynosure, with positively enhanced bonus factor ten validations ~ given that we are here to support and encourage each other to recognise and use what essentially amounts to a new way of constructive reading, thinking and writing for those finding it to be unfamiliar ~ i.e. so as to do away with being prone to thinking the worst and all that sort of thing

    Disambiguating Cynosure said:

    First --- Until you mentioned it, I actually had not mentioned Mr.Robert123's DREAMSCHOOL Thread.
    ...Yet Now, in THIS Thread, THREE Threads are being discussed: QUERYTHEORY Thread (This one), BRAINWAVES (the one I posted a link to for "I Am Me"), and now DREAMSSCHOOL (Mr. Robert123's Thread).

    Making mistakes here do not involve as significant a bearing as is so in the neurotypical world, being that the positive elements of our endeavours are 'really' what matter here.

    In a sense the neurotypical world is like wearing a white suit or dress, and the moment a social mistake is made ~ the suit or dress is considered as being ruined. Yet in reality, being that the abstract fantasies or delusions of what perfection is for neurotypicals ~ is not reality, for our proverbial white suit or dress is actually in a sense remarkably stain resistant, and very very easily cleaned.

    So in the respect of what I have quoted just above and before ~ I am referring by far far more to the merits of your postings and threads, in order for those merits to be easily accessed for further consideration and broader contemplation by others. 

    Disallowed Cynosure said:

    Next --- I am not technically as able to be as good at QUOTING as you are, ...yet:

    Deepthought
    When you stated that you "gained only two replies >(from people)< that did not understand what you were trying to convey (i.e they digressed onto other topics.) this is not quite the case:

    (...Which contains quoting yourself, myself, and bold formatting which I cannot duplicate!)

    Yet in a month you have worked out how to use the quote function - it took me a few months if I recall correctly.

    If you do not have the Edit, Insert, Format, Tools, ≡, ≡ and Reply bar at the bottom of the reply box on your tech-device, we each have an individual writing style anyway ~ as it is would be yours perhaps?

    I use the Bold Format so as to different what is my writing, what is others and so that I do not get referentially lost or confused, as I reference every statement with and through every other statement to achieve orderly contextual progression ~ or at least hopefully!

    Disallowed Cynosure said:

    The "other Thread" containing "two replies" was upon the BRAINWAVES Thread. (And one digression was into MRI-machines, and etc. etc...)

    Seriously ~ you are considering the 'digression' issue far too narrowly here, for these threads are particularly relevant to your original posting for this thread, and as the original poster here you can choose to digress or diverge as far as you need to in order to explain what you are being asking about.

    I mean using the quote function does save alot of effort in terms of not having to write again what we have already written before, and it does allow more integral and broader considerations for other people after all.

    Disambiguating Cynosure said:

    Finally --- I understand misunderstanding there, because upon the DREAMSCHOOL Thread, I gave address for This QUERYTHEORY Thread (!). If you read the post I gave, I said that I planned to go off and digress very much... and, well, here, you CAN see how long and digressing it is from the DREAMSCHOOL Thread...?

    Personally I saw no wrongdoing whatsoever at all with your giving the title of this thread, as it resolved an issue for you in that the topic matter being addressed involved more the content (the character of the dreams) and the sources of the content (the nature of the schooling) ~ rather than as such your wish to cover the apparatus and operations of the mind/body relationship itself more directly.

    Disambiguating Cynosure said:

    As I said, I had to explain my own very different approach, before I could re-join the DREAMSCHOOL Thread (or indeed perhaps any other Threads)... and, if you please, you see how long this (QUERYTHEORY) Thread is taking, even if I wrote it alone. I did not want to put all of this into someone else's Thread.

    That was completely understood then as much as it is also completely comprehended here now ~ as being established good practice on the NAS forum, and many others.

  • A Query About a Theory: Of The Mind... Final, but never in infinity...

    We have THREE elements:
    - A JunkWebMap (made of all possible Junk).
    - A Wind (all external Junk. In Infinity.).
    - A Spider/Tracer.

    Here in this Post is the proposition of putting all Three of these together... for our SPIDER/TRACER is nothing more-or-less, than WHERE OUR CONSCIOUS MIND CURRENTLY IS.

    That *IS* the end of the "Setting up" of this Whole Theory. (...If I could post a picture, then I wouldn't have to have taken so long to write quite so much. But I can't and so that is that.)

    ---------------------------

    Nonetheless. And so, This, if correctly followed, IS where a veritable RollerCoaster Ride of differences begin, examples of which, follow.

    - "Humans use only 10% of their Brains?"... Means that, of all possible "Junk" in existence, only 10% of it can be reached by the Spider/Tracer.
    - In Emotions, Sleep, Dreams, and Meditation... Certain types of "Junk" are ignored, yet the *entire* pathway must be travelled, to reach a part which is being triggered at the time. (...This is why, for instance, the Smell of Roses may bring Memories of Wind-Surfing in California, or when talking to your cousin they will suddenly turn into a tomato...(!))
    - "A Neurotypical" and an "Autistic"... are differing types of Spider/Tracer. Each can see, find, alter, adapt-to, etc... differing types of JUNK. Either upon the travelled Web/Map, or as external Wind which influences the Web/Map.
    - "Trauma" (bad physical or mental JUNK)... is a very large piece of JUNK. It may be part of the Web/Map, or it may come as the WIND, and if the Spider/Tracer can connect the two then it hits *hard*. It can be overcome, or it has to be avoided...

    This is the END of *explaining* THIS Theory. Hereafter may begin more examples concerning *application* of it. Thank you to one and all for reading (if trying to understand).

  • A Query About a Theory: Of The Mind... Part Three.

    We have TWO concepts so far:
    - We have our JunkWeb/Map.
    - We have a "Wind", which consists of EXTERNAL "junk"... (other JunkWeb/Maps, the Environment, the Earth, the Sky, the Firmament, the Infinity... (!))
    ...Those are Two separate matters interacting, using the same "Junk".

    NOW.
    We introduce The SPIDER, or The TRACER. The SPIDER** is for the WEB, and the TRACER is for the MAP.

    The Spider/Tracer, is a THIRD matter. A thing which can only travel along the pathways of the JunkWebMap, and cannot step off. To access a certain part of the JunkWebMap, it cannot be done from wherever the Spider/Tracer currently is... our Spider/Tracer must dash hither and thither, in order to identify any contacts, differences, changes, or alerts...to the JunkWebMap.

    (Alas, Yet more metaphors? Our Spider/Tracer, is as if in the dark, or blind, or is surrounded by the WIND, Fire/Tornado of external "Junk". A person in a forest must follow a trail. A car must follow a road. A light is a guide in a dark tunnel. They cannot deviate... That sort of BASIC restriction/constraint.)


    ** ( or whatever is preferred for those who are scared of spiders!? )

  • Thank You kindly, for your post "Lone Warrior". This reply is a reply to say that I *was* planning a longer reply, but then had to correct - or attempt to - correct a... well, I cannot give a word using correct JARGON for what happened, yet I had to reply to "Deep Thought", for I fear very many others making the same misunderstanding with regards to Internet Things... Yet I understand the confusion after I made a mistake or not and... and...

    If I give here no full reply to your message as yet, then it it seems as if I at least know what you mean concerning "not always having enough energy to reply"... Now I need to know if any Threads are being correctly followed... (The Internet confuses me)

  • Thank you, and I am Glad of your input as well, "DeepThought"... however, forgive my beginning with a slight regret..

    Oh dear, oh dear (*sigh*)... The more I use the Internet, the more I find how it as bad as real life, when I cannot correct misunderstandings face-to-face. The mistakes here are the fault of no-one (I think), apart from use of plain English versus Internet Speak & Timelines...

    First --- Until you mentioned it, I actually had not mentioned Mr.Robert123's DREAMSCHOOL Thread.
    ...Yet Now, in THIS Thread, THREE Threads are being discussed: QUERYTHEORY Thread (This one), BRAINWAVES (the one I posted a link to for "I Am Me"), and now DREAMSSCHOOL (Mr. Robert123's Thread).

    Next --- I am not technically as able to be as good at QUOTING as you are, ...yet:

    Deepthought said:
    When you stated that you "gained only two replies >(from people)< that did not understand what you were trying to convey (i.e they digressed onto other topics.) this is not quite the case:

    (...Which contains quoting yourself, myself, and bold formatting which I cannot duplicate!)

    The "other Thread" containing "two replies" was upon the BRAINWAVES Thread. (And one digression was into MRI-machines, and etc. etc...)

    Finally --- I understand misunderstanding there, because upon the DREAMSCHOOL Thread, I gave address for This QUERYTHEORY Thread (!). If you read the post I gave, I said that I planned to go off and digress very much... and, well, here, you CAN see how long and digressing it is from the DREAMSCHOOL Thread...?

    As I said, I had to explain my own very different approach, before I could re-join the DREAMSCHOOL Thread (or indeed perhaps any other Threads)... and, if you please, you see how long this (QUERYTHEORY) Thread is taking, even if I wrote it alone. I did not want to put all of this into someone else's Thread.

    I am ending this post now, because it is very long.

  • Disallowed Cynosure said:

    Great goodness, I am grateful to you, for I gained an answer, and it was a *positive* response?! I am only one month now, in learning about how to use the Internet, and I am prone to expecting the worst... and when I last attempted this topic, upon another Thread, I gained only two replies which did not quite understand what I was trying to convey (i.e. They digressed onto other topics.) But I appreciated their time anyway.

    Greetings and affirmations to all, and ,

    When you stated "I am only one month now, in learning about how to use the Internet, and I am prone to expecting the worst..." aside from thinking the worst, I have been learning to use the internet for a full year now. Getting used to how things work and are done here basically involves doing away with the neurotypical tendency of blaming and shaming people when mistakes are made ~ we simply point mistakes out to improve communication in order to develop and maintain more affirmative interactions.

    When you stated that you "gained only two replies >(from people)< that did not understand what you were trying to  convey (i.e they digressed onto other topics.) this is not quite the case:

    Firstly we were discussing the particularities of the established subject matter of the thread itself, i.e. http://community.autism.org.uk/f/miscellaneous-and-chat/11007/sleep-mares-and-schools ~ and we were not then as such digressing from the topic in question. We also tried to encourage you to feel welcome in adding to the discussion, and unless the original poster states otherwise ~ staying with the original topic is generally considered to be the done thing on the NAS forum. So forgive me if you will for not quite having done so here.

    And secondly ~ heading back on topic ~ I have been into the experience and theory of mind the entire length of my life ~ as I have always been a philosopher-professor type of Aspergian, and in order to understand the nature of human life and otherwise ~ I got into reading comparative metaphysics, philosophy and theosophy from about 5 to 6 years of age, and amongst others including sociology which was not so much my thing, and psychology which really was my thing during my further education years.

    So basically, I am very interested in what you had mentioned and were attempting to introduce into the previous discussion, in that I was curious to know in which way and how you were going to go about doing so.

  • Hi I have no difficulty understanding your comments, I may see things in a slightly different word type, as in,junk to me would be, random thoughts,unimportant things I see, your frequencies for me are an accumulation of many experiences all suddenly connecting as more are added each year, eventually with enough being found they suddenly start joining together to become non junk items, as such a collection of jigsaw puzzle pieces which until a full quantity are found the finish picture does not always make sense. With all the junk or pieces the picture suddenly all fits to make the total more clear. A complete picture, item,product,thought,experience.

    I do read all of your threads, I do not always fully understand all of them,maybe I have not accumulated quite enough “junk” about you yet. I am not intended to cause upset by using the word junk about you, but for the reason of giving junk a meaning, I used it to mean enough random things about you to make a full picture.

    I do like your posts, I find you extremely thoughtful,deep thoughts and an inquisitive mind.

    I do not always have enough energy to reply to your posts, I have to rest my mind as it can become overwhelmed with to much random junk.

  • A Query About a Theory: Of The Mind... Part Two.

    We have our Web/Map, a network of assorted Pathways, interlinked, made of assorted, unrelated matters (see the main post). That these matters are unrelated, not always useful, and for lack of a better word... are the ONLY reasons why I use the word "Junk".

    We have our "Junk Map/Web". Now consider that the environment (air, noises, emotions, pollution, etc.) are as if WIND blowing through it.
    And only if the "wind" contains any one *exact* same thing as anything in the JunkWeb/Map... does it activate that one same thing, and the pathway in which it sits.

    More metaphors may help:
    - Like responds to like.
    - What is not already known is as if invisible.
    - A chain of differing coloured links, where only certain colours can activate the link and so may rattle the chain.
    - "ABC" can only touch "ABC"; yet "ABCDE" will provoke an "ABC" response linking to a perhaps far-away "CDE"...

    End of Post... I hold off again, in order to check continued understanding (or interest?).

  • In direct reply to... "lamme81"...THANK YOU!
    Great goodness, I am grateful to you, for I gained an answer, and it was a *positive* response?! I am only one month now, in learning about how to use the Internet, and I am prone to expecting the worst... and when I last attempted this topic, upon another Thread, I gained only two replies which did not quite understand what I was trying to convey (i.e. They digressed onto other topics.) But I appreciated their time anyway.

    Enough of that. I shall, now given interest, continue upon a next post, below this one. Yet to answer your stated confusions, this is the other Thread:

    community.autism.org.uk/.../brainwaves-and-autism

    Titled: BRAINWAVES ...AND AUTISM.

    When I said that this Thread was a "greatly simplified" explanation, then if what is said here and in this other Brainwaves Thread is combined, then that should be further (yet complicated) explanation.