Well, Hello To You All...

OK : Here goes:

Hi Everyone and firstly let me say how impressive this site is - Very user friendly.

I've known I'm ADHD for ages, although I'd point out it was actually me who highlighted it to my parents.

I'm 52 and from a pretty middle class UK background. 

When I was younger, any type of non-neurotypical personality was seen as a set of "quirks", as long as it caused no trouble/distruption.

I was incredibly exciteable and never ever (and still haven't) read books.

Teachers and parents didn't consider the interminable chattering, running around and butterfly mind anything to be concerned about.

I was a compliant, outwardy agreeable young boy, so I probably went right under the radar.

For as long as I can remember, I've had the most amazingly clear and cinematic memory - 

Funnily enough, just a few hours ago, I bumped into a guy I was at junior school with, whom I'd not seen for 45 years.

I went on to regail him with at least 10 incidents from our primary school days, in microscopic detail, thinking he'd be wildly impressed/amused and waiting for the same from him.

Wrong......

He (and the rest of the people in the post office) basically stood there aghast: Open-mouthed at the spontaneous tirade of detail.

Anyway, I digress.

After much encouragement from my Dr, I was finally diagnosed ASD1 yesterday.

Admittedly, I've been a bit disappointed by the reaction from my partner and sibling:

Even today, in the liberated, considerate and understanding society we are meant to live in, there was a general sense of "trepidation" about my diagnosis.

That's why I've come here, as I'm sure I'll find people who'll be able to share similar expereinces and offer advice.

Anyway, enough from me, ....I'm incredibly verbose, but I hear that's normal.

Hello to you all and I look forward to hearing from you.

Me

  • dont worry the NT team were blinkered!

  • of course I'm not sharing the ball with anyone! even thorough my co-ordination is so crap I can hardly kick it accurately LOL!

  • Was it an own goal? 

  • ASD 1 - NT 0

    is that  the full time score! 

    Injury time? .....any yellow cards? 

  • It's great to hear such a positive story like yours. Also, knowing there is a community who identifies with you very closley is very uplifting. I have always felt very much on the periphery of life, but now I feel quite proud to be very much neuro non-typical.....:)

  • Exactly, it's quite simply a relief to be able to talk to people who know what you're talking about, without you having to explain. 

    I was also having severe problems with anxiety, which is what set me off down the road to discovery. I actually thought I was going crazy, or about to have some kind of breakdown. I searched frantically for answers on line ... am I menopausal and this is all hormonal....no, doesn't fit .... is it just severe stress .... some things match but not enough. Then one day I read an article about a woman diagnosed with Aspergers in her 40s and that was it. Oh blimey, that could have been written about me. And suddenly the whole lot dropped into place. The sensory sensitivities, need for routine, my hopeless social skills, face-blindness, uncanny ability to walk into things, photographic memory for numbers .... the list goes on and wow, it explains everything. 

    Like you, I feel great for knowing. I figure that now I know I am dealing with anxiety caused by Aspergers, I have a better chance of finding ways to cope than if I was stabbing about in the dark trying to make general anxiety management theories work. And it is so nice to find our tribe, after years of thinking we're the only one :-)

  • Yeah Aspergers disapeared once the DSM V came along. I would think I'm also ASD1.

  • Wel, if its NHS, it's obviously NICE approved. My psychologist said they no longer diagnose Asperger Syndrome, so I'm ASD1, because I'm verbal. 

  • Thanks for replying... I've found the NICE details, a bit too much detail for me to wade through I'm afraid but I would hope that being an NHS diagnosis that following the correct protocols would be a matter of course? Lets hope so!

  • The numbers are for "Level Of Severity". From 1 to 3, with 3 being Kanner autism.. Maybe I was mistaken in thinking a diagnosis of ASD comes with a Seveity Level, it might not, but I have a hunch it should. You also have to be sure the person who diagnosed you followed the standard NICE diagnostic process. I've found a link that details it all, but will refrain from pasting it here, as that is most likely against site protocol. 

  • Good luck.  Interestingly, several people have told me that I can come across as quite intimidating and formidable intellectually.  The truth is, my scrap-book head enables me to pick out random stuff - quotes, facts, names, events - that must make me sound incredibly erudite.  But I'm not.  I think part of it is to do with the mask I wear to cover up my overwhelming sense of inadequacy. 

    I'm also quite quick with repartee, which makes many people think I'm incredibly witty - kind of like Oscar Wilde.  Again... I just seem to be able to get access to random stuff when I need it.

  • And how do you get on? 

  • One reason I like your posts.  Some very interesting and practical information.

    I often study these typical behaviours and try to do the opposite to make myself appear 'normal'.  For instance ritually following the same route.  I make a point of trying new paths or routes between familiar destinations just for the hell of it.

  • like a factory reset? - best you check that you are still in the warranty period first!

  • LOL! I wonder if you can revert to an earlier version if the new one hasnt been Beta tested properly LOL!

  • until your next upgrade yes...

    personally I have an Apple Iphone 5 and an ASD 1.3! - joke!

  • Thanx Ellie! ... "I'm not a number, I'm a free man" LOL!

    Wonder why I didnt get a number then? I'm certainly not 2 or 3 so must be 1 I guess.

  • well to me Jonesy, you are not a number but a human being!! - lol

    Autism Spectrum Disorder           299.00 (F84.0)

    Diagnostic Criteria

    A.      Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts, as manifested by the following, currently or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive, see text):

    1.       Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions.

    2.       Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction, ranging, for example, from poorly integrated verbal and nonverbal communication; to abnormalities in eye contact and body language or deficits in understanding and use of gestures; to a total lack of facial expressions and nonverbal communication.

    3.       Deficits in developing, maintaining, and understanding relationships, ranging, for example, from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit various social contexts; to difficulties in sharing imaginative play or in making friends; to absence of interest in peers.

    Specify current severity:

        Severity is based on social communication impairments and restricted repetitive patterns of behavior (see Table 2).

    B.      Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities, as manifested by at least two of the following, currently or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive; see text):

    1.       Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech (e.g., simple motor stereotypies, lining up toys or flipping objects, echolalia, idiosyncratic phrases).

    2.       Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns or verbal nonverbal behavior (e.g., extreme distress at small changes, difficulties with transitions, rigid thinking patterns, greeting rituals, need to take same route or eat food every day).

    3.       Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus (e.g, strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interest).

    4.       Hyper- or hyporeactivity to sensory input or unusual interests in sensory aspects of the environment (e.g., apparent indifference to pain/temperature, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, visual fascination with lights or movement).

    Specify current severity:

        Severity is based on social communication impairments and restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior (see Table 2).

    C.      Symptoms must be present in the early developmental period (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities, or may be masked by learned strategies in later life).

    D.      Symptoms cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of current functioning.

    E.       These disturbances are not better explained by intellectual disability (intellectual developmental disorder) or global developmental delay. Intellectual disability and autism spectrum disorder frequently co-occur; to make comorbid diagnoses of autism spectrum disorder and intellectual disability, social communication should be below that expected for general developmental level.

    Note: Individuals with a well-established DSM-IV diagnosis of autistic disorder, Asperger’s disorder, or pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified should be given the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. Individuals who have marked deficits in social communication, but whose symptoms do not otherwise meet criteria for autism spectrum disorder, should be evaluated for social (pragmatic) communication disorder.

    Specify if:
    With or without accompanying intellectual impairment
    With or without accompanying language impairment
    Associated with a known medical or genetic condition or environmental factor
    (Coding note: Use additional code to identify the associated medical or genetic condition.)
    Associated with another neurodevelopmental, mental, or behavioral disorder
    (Coding note: Use additional code[s] to identify the associated neurodevelopmental, mental, or behavioral disorder[s].)
    With catatonia (refer to the criteria for catatonia associated with another mental disorder, pp. 119-120, for definition) (Coding note: Use additional code 293.89 [F06.1] catatonia associated with autism spectrum disorder to indicate the presence of the comorbid catatonia.)

    Table 2  Severity levels for autism spectrum disorder

    Severity level

    Social communication

    Restricted, repetitive behaviors

    Level 3
    "Requiring very substantial support”
    Severe deficits in verbal and nonverbal social communication skills cause severe impairments in functioning, very limited initiation of social interactions, and minimal response to social overtures from others. For example, a person with few words of intelligible speech who rarely initiates interaction and, when he or she does, makes unusual approaches to meet needs only and responds to only very direct social approaches
    Inflexibility of behavior, extreme difficulty coping with change, or other restricted/repetitive behaviors markedly interfere with functioning in all spheres. Great distress/difficulty changing focus or action.
    Level 2
    "Requiring substantial support”
    Marked deficits in verbal and nonverbal social communication skills; social impairments apparent even with supports in place; limited initiation of social interactions; and reduced or  abnormal responses to social overtures from others. For example, a person who speaks simple sentences, whose interaction is limited  to narrow special interests, and how has markedly odd nonverbal communication.
    Inflexibility of behavior, difficulty coping with change, or other restricted/repetitive behaviors appear frequently enough to be obvious to the casual observer and interfere with functioning in  a variety of contexts. Distress and/or difficulty changing focus or action.
    Level 1
    "Requiring support”
    Without supports in place, deficits in social communication cause noticeable impairments. Difficulty initiating social interactions, and clear examples of atypical or unsuccessful response to social overtures of others. May appear to have decreased interest in social interactions. For example, a person who is able to speak in full sentences and engages in communication but whose to- and-fro conversation with others fails, and whose attempts to make friends are odd and typically unsuccessful.
    Inflexibility of behavior causes significant interference with functioning in one or more contexts. Difficulty switching between activities. Problems of organization and planning hamper independence.

    https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/diagnosis/dsm-5-diagnostic-criteria

  • errr I don't know! My 5 page assessment report doesn't give an ASD number like yours does, mine just says at the end " we therefore conclude that 'Jonsey' meets the diagnostic criteria of Autism Spectrum Disorder of DSM V 299.00"

  • What's your diagnosis? ASD1?

    Sounds like your proactively circulating your news, but don't be nervous about the reactions of others.

    Now you can officially be yourself and start actually enjoying the ideosyncrasies you've been blessed with.