I am totally prepared to start a campaign if there is not one to support ASD Adults going to court on criminal convictions. There are NO specialist solicitors. The Police are dreadful not trained completely for ASD. The courts need to improve advocate support inside then just a solicitor alone then generally get guilty pleas instead of looking at the whole. ASD sadly do not always have a voice and always go along with solicitors bad advice. I would like to see solicitors and courts support cases where ASD and social isolation to be taken seriously in any charges and always seek reports as protocol when is known ASD person is before the courts. Can anyone help me know how to improve the system where guilty pleas are forced then the truth and innocence is lost due to ASD going along with early guilty pleas when innocent to criminal convictions then the entire?
My son is autistic and in the past was arrested and denied an appropriate adult even though he told the custody sergeant he was autistic. He was then bullied into a confession and ended up with a caution. Roll on 4 years and in trouble again - in court the judge stated you do not have severe autism as you hold down a job. He then dismissed the autism and gave a harsh sentence despite being told this should have been dismissed back at the police station with a caution. My son has been suicidal over the past 6 months with all this, has been harassed due to been named in the papers and his autism being revealed. It has been horrendous. I do not believe autism should be a get out of jail free card but I can honestly say the system is terrible and my son was an easy target for the cps and their statistics. It has cost thousands in legal fees and to be honest the general consensus from all of us that supported him is that by informing the judge of his autism the judge came down harder.
please if anyone wants to start a campaign count me in. I am fed up of the bullying and discrimination I witness with my son and also myself as I have Aspergers. It goes on everywhere, I am fed up with having to fight for everything. Please contact me and let’s do something about it
There is a issue with Aspergers side of things, it is so underestimate the issue that those have. It just not criminal justice system. Benefits/Support etc
What about this for a tag line.Aspergers dont underestimate the Autism.
I knew there were more people here witnessing the unfairness of treatment and lack of support. Because ASD person looks normal and can talk fluently, it goes against them which is wrong. Having a job should not go against someone in court! We need front line people on the Justice system to stop behaving like a corporate collecting revenue officers. And start being decent souls to get the truth then believe allegations are fact (include court press) in courts like this. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? What has happened to wanting a fair trial? No disabilities should be a free get out of jail card. Autism, has a lot to do with behaviours risking their own well-being to be excepted in society, and abused unknown to them used and taken advantage of by a range of people sadly. To abusers to make false charges to the police that get dropped or not, to live with their own vulnerability which there is no support in the communities that are permanent support due to being able bodied. It's rather a dreadful thing to see.
If the Autistic Society here can contact us to start this campaign to improve the Justice System, despite tool kits available, we want ASD to be understood, all spectrum, not just severe.
1. More specialist ASD solicitors
2. Police improvements, all areas
3. Courts to allow trained advocate besides solicitors to attend meetings and anything else, not legal advice just witness support.
4. Probation service improvements
5. Prison - safety for ASD vulnerability
6. Specialist Judges
7. The press need to stop being one-sided to share facts correctly. Papers cause more harm then good for the readers and defendants and victims
It's a lot to improve, for the majority, not just ASD vulnerability in this broken system.
We need everyone to support this, we can do this! We won't have unfairness no more!
@NAS36739 I will contact you. Thanks
I'm sorry about to hear about the situation that your son went through and how he has been feeling.
If he is ever unable to cope with the distress or despair, it’s very important he tells someone about his feelings or thoughts of suicide. He should call his GP and make an urgent appointment. His GP can make sure he gets appropriate help and support.
If it’s outside of his GP hours he can call 111 to reach the NHS 111 service: http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/Emergencyandurgentcareservices/Pages/NHS-111.aspx
The Samaritans also provide confidential non-judgemental emotional support, 24 hours a day on 116 123, or by email on firstname.lastname@example.org.
MIND have information pages on coping with self harm or suicidal feelings based on the experiences of people who’ve been through it that he may find helpful.
If he is ever very close to doing something to hurt himself - he or yourself should call 999 or go to the nearest A&E department. There should be someone there to support him and make sure he gets ongoing support.
If you need help with an autism related issue, our helpline can be emailed via webform https://www.autism.org.uk/services/helplines/main/questions.aspx or they’re open Monday to Thursday 10am-4pm and Friday 9am-3pm on 0808 800 4104.
I have to disagree really. Resources will differ area to area of course but I posted here last year when I was in a situation of facing imprisonment. Maybe I am one of the lucky ones but my social worker found a specialist lawyer she happened to know. He was very good and my result was three years community order and not prison.
I agree that the police aren't geared up for auties same as the prison service aren't but they are getting better. The officer who dealt with my case took time to learn and get to know me and has changed his viewpoint of me, if anything at all maybe I have taught him that you don't achieve anything by shouting or intimidating or belittling people.
The courts can provide advocates as can the police. If I am interviewed (and it is proably the same for a lot of people here) by the police as an offender or a witness I must have an appropriate adult there,
Through more awareness the police and other agencies might learn something like if you have Asperger's and don't look someone in the eye when being asked a question does not at all mean you are lying! That's one of the most common struggles I feel.