Government Treatment of Asperges

Hey guys, 

I have a diagnosis of asperges (high functioning). I'm 27, intelligent, capable, pretty good at most things. I hate the label but do have associated traits.

Anyway my GP practice are terrible. They know me by name and hang up on me. My medical records are largely inaccurate with the incorrect diagnosis on majority of pages. They continously break the Data Protection Act but my experience was the information commissioner doesn't want to know (both government departments). They actually almost killed me as a child. They kept telling me I was fine & that I  I worry unnecessarily because I have asperges but privately they found a hernia on the first scan and fixed it. So I'm not delusional but this is how I am treated by the doctor. 

I bought a car and taxed it with the new keeper supplement. Because the seller didn't send the v5 off I got no tax reminder and car was on the road. I got a sticker on the car saying no tax so I called Dvla. They said it's not my fault, just pay £20 for new logbook and tax it. Anyway I taxed it but still got taken to court and charged. (pleaded guilty by post with mitigating circumstances, explaining I did not intend to not pay tax and would of had I been reminded, explaining seller didn't transfer my details. Anyway I got charged guilty and fined

Then at the PIP assessment recently (it's at tribunal). The pip assessor didn't type what I said. It was substantially minimised. There are pages with answers that I don't remember being asked and the answers are not mine (I like chatting on the phone etc, i really don't)  Then the decision maker states my pip decision was made by looking at the evidence such as the the muscle-skeleton assessment but when I refer to the assessment it says clearly 'not assessed'

I'm basically fed up this treatment. I find people are nice but the government isn't and I'm really struggling. My parents are old and when they go I don't think I'll manage. I just get pushed around by government.... Everyone else doesn't do this... Only people who have access to my files or I've already said I have asperges..  Is anyone else treated this way?

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  • I've never had any problems, I have Asperger's (or higher functioning autism under the reclassification) and I've never been treated differently because of my diagnosis.

    I've never tried to claim PIP, but to be fair there is no basis that my Asperger's could be used as justification for it. Now I think that the current PIP assessments are a joke, they are badly designed and even worse in their implementation, but I don't meet any of the scoring criteria and they should not be redesigned so that I do. They should however be redesigned so that they work properly for those in genuine need.

    The issue with your car tax is that you broke the law, sure the other person didn't send off their part and you didn't get the reminder but the old adage "ignorance is no excuse", holds true. You are legally required to tax your vehicle or declare it SORN, the £20 for the new documentation was to allow you to do this but you also should have known when your tax expired, you can check online if you are unsure and you didn't do what you were legally obliged to so you were prosecuted and fined. You may feel the law is unfair but it applies to us all equally, it has to because applying to all equally is the very nature of fairness.

    The problem with your GP seems difficult, I've never known the ICO not be bothered about data breaches but I've only ever dealt with them in a corporate environment. I'm not however sure it's totally within their remit as it could well come under professional standards, medical confidentiality is I believe governed by the GMC. If your medical records are inaccurate you can write and ask for them to be amended, they will then either be amended or you should get a letter back explaining why they believe they are accurate and telling you how to take the matter further if you disagree. You can't however have things removed from them on a whim, so if you disagree with a diagnosis that's not enough, you have to challenge the diagnosis and show that the original was incorrect rather than just say you don't want it on the record.

    If the GP practice are hanging up on you as soon as they hear you then you need to submit a formal complaint. If this is a genuine issue without good reason (eg they are entitled to hang up if you are rude or abusive) then Citizens Advice will be able to help, they will probably also advise changing your GP.

  •  you are a legend for your answer! 
    I signed up on here in a really emotional state but your response has given me clarity where there was none! Thank you for explaining and giving me a process to follow. 

    I'm glad you are treated well, it's extremely reassuring that my experience isn't common & I agree with the PIP assessment points. I've never personally wanted to claim it but my parents have been ultra pushy.... 

    With the car tax problem you have explained that clearly. Just two questions........ I was told verbally that it wasn't my fault by the DVLA prior to DVLA taking me to court; does that make any difference? Also, to be precise the paperwork trail shows that the vehicle became mine legally on the 28th of April 2017. I taxed the vehicle on the 28th of April 2017 and the fine is for, 28th of April 2017 so technically being picky the vehicle was taxed the day I offended (& prior because the tax is for the month).

    I think it is very different with the ICO dealing with another public body, certainly they were not interested. With the GP practice I've been collecting evidence for some time. It is very clear and obvious. I'll move to another and speak to the Citizens Advice as you've recommended.

    Thank you for your support! I've felt lost and stuck for so long that it's really destroyed me. I can't say how much this clarity has helped.




  • Hi

    Thanks for your message, I'm glad you see it as clarity, I know I can be "blunt" (it's my comment on the antisocial thread, I'm very matter of fact).

    You have to look at PIP in a certain way, do you meet the criteria or not? If you do meet them then you should push for it, if you don't think you do then it's got to be your choice. The concept is that it should help cover the additional costs of what it's awarded for so those who meet the requirements should receive it. I don't but I know I'm at the higher functioning end of things, I've also seen the friend of a friend be turned down for PIP and he's paralysed below the waist. He went from nothing to awarded the higher level at appeal so it shows how wrong they can get things.

    I don't think them saying anything verbally means much, even less sonic you don't have a recording of it. That being said those dates don't make sense as they appear to have find you for not taxing a vehicle on a day the vehicle was taxed. Without looking at their reasoning in detail which should be on the court documents it's hard to tell. Citizens Advice would be able to help looking at the specifics though.

    I deal with the ICO in a business environment where they are very strict and have to meet all their requirements or the penalties could be quite severe, but a bit of a Google seems to indicate that it's either partially or fully not under their remit when it comes to medical information. If you're not happy then I'd always recommend changing, you won't change themselves you won't change your feelings about them so someone with a fresh start will be better.

    In most cases Citizens Advice are great, you can email, phone or have face to face meetings. You virtually always need to book in advance and there can be a week or two wait sometimes as they are very busy and understaffed but they will do their best to help.

  • Hard work is what people do either because it needs to be done and someone has to do it, we don't all have other people we can delegate it to, or can afford to pay to do so,

    The truth of the matter is that smart people generally don't work hard. The secret of success in life is getting the most for the least. Smart is not a synonym for educated, intellectual, or highly qualified.

    and Hard work is also what people put into something they care about.

    That's called commitment and a labour of love. There's a big difference at putting in lots of time and effort into something you love and putting in lots and time and effort into something you don't love just to pay the bills.

  • "Hard work is for mugs," Arran? 

    Hard work is what people do either because it needs to be done and someone has to do it, we don't all have other people we can delegate it to, or can afford to pay to do so, and Hard work is also what people put into something they care about. 

    "Protestant work ethic"? (How do I show 'eyes roll in disgust' in type?) 

  • For example, I used to believe in capitalism. I still do... 
    I think people should work, and hard work should be rewarded. But it should be done equally. I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others). I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs). But when the means of production and the tools of production are owned by the few. The wealth will always go upwards to the thus creation of (global capitalism elite / multinational-corporations). 

    I read a statistic from oxfam that said 8 people own half of humanities wealth and it's an accepted fact that the divide between the rich and poor has never been so great. Yes we are slowly solving absolute poverty in this world but we are creating social, relative poverty in it's place. We need a better system and the fairest system I can think of is that either there is a maximum wealth that can be accumulated in a lifetime (or) the removal of inheritance. This means that everybody who has money deserves it, because they have worked for it. This would be far better equality.

    One of my biggest concerns is how automation and developments in technology are killing (old) jobs at a higher rate than (new) jobs are being created.

    There's no law in economics which says that there will always be enough paid employment to go round.

    The loss of jobs due to automation systematically results in a loss of income tax and NI revenue for the government. Automation is legitimate tax evasion.

  • I'm a firm believer in capitalism, it's brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of humanity, what's more it works, communism doesn't. That being said I'm not an advocate of totally free market capitalism, there needs to be a rigorous system of laws and regulations to make the system work effectively and fairly. I also believe there should be a welfare/benefits system for those that can't (not won't) look after themselves, especially people like the elderly and disabled, but also people experiencing short term difficulty, between jobs etc.

    Are you a capitalist or are you a Calvinist?

    Real capitalists do not work for money. They let their money work for them. Hard work is for mugs.

    Calvinists believe in the strong / Protestant work ethic.

    Oh, you still haven't answered my questions.

  • It's quite significantly more than muscle-skeleton pain... 
    I actually have kyphosis and pectus carinatum (both skeletal conditions) so I do get muscle pain at times and have certainly found a good mattress is necessary but sleeping on the floor as you suggested is the best. I'm not saying your brother didn't get bad pain, he could of had a trapped nerve and that can be painful but there are different types of pains.

    Mine feels like I'm being stabbed internally. It's similar to the pain I had as a child but unlike before I can't go private because I'm on JSA, my DLA has stopped and my bills are actually higher than my income at the moment. I actually had the exact same treatment as a child. They just tell me it's in my head. This time after one and half years of trying I got them to do a CT scan but it was without contrast and after paying to speak to one of these online doctors I've found out that a CT scan isn't that good at picking up tissue especially when it's without contrast so the scan being clear is hardly conclusive and regardless, I have no life because i can't do anything without causing agony....

    I'm actually going to apply for ESA tomorrow, use citizen advice to push for further help and if necessary I'm just going to max out my credit cards on private scans. It will be financial suicide but I can't be expected to live like this.... 

  • Just a thought and please don't take this in any way as me minimising your chest pains, but it might be worth a go, especially as so far no one has found anything that's the obvious source of the pain. The question is, how old is your mattress?

    I'll explain why I ask. About four years ago my older brother was getting terrible chest pains, he would wake in the night with them, he would get them all morning, they weren't as bad in the afternoon and were gone by evening, but every night he'd wake up with pain and it would be there the next day again. He went to the doctors, they couldn't find anything wrong with him, he even got a monitor to track his heart rate, everything was good but the pain continued. At the end of it all, after an X-ray the GP referred him to the specialist cardiologist, he went for the assessment, he had the breathing monitoring machine fitted, an ECG and had to walk through to a run, finally a spring on a treadmill whilst his heart rate and oxygen saturation were monitored. At the end of it the doctor said it was finished, he took the gear off and asked "What now?", the cardiologist wasn't sure, he said he'd never had anyone get to the end as he'd always had to stop them before, but that my brothers heart was in perfect shape, so were his lungs, they were totally stumped as what to test or look for.

    Anyway the pain continued, but about 6 weeks later his wife ordered a new mattress, within a day of sleeping on the new mattress the pain was gone, the next day, the next week it stayed away. He spoke to the doctor and a look came over him, it triggered some old memory. 

    They worked out that the old mattress wasn't properly supporting him at night, so during his sleep as he'd sunk into the mattress it was slowly compressing his rib cage, his shoulders rolled in, the pain was his rib cage not being able to expand properly, the pain the following morning was his rib cage expanding properly, back to it's natural shape. They even realised that his pains went away on holiday and on a couple of business trips which is why at one point they had put it down to stress. So the reason he had quite severe chest pains was his mattress, but it's not something doctors will usually ask about, so if you have an older mattress, if it's soft then test something, sleep on the floor for a night or two, see what happens. If you're otherwise fit and healthy and don't experience the pain from physical exertion then it could be worth a try.

  • I agree, depending on the type of equality. I'm a huge fan of equality of opportunity, I'm hugely against equality of outcome.

  • It's not a fact that the government are good OR bad in their treatment of ASD but it IS a fact that some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment. 

    I totally agree with this, there are also huge regional disparities in treatment based around the priorities of the local council. I remember reading an article in I think the Guardian about how provision of services changed when council leaders child was diagnosed with some disability and they then realised how poor the provision was.

    (Find a way to take away all of the purple instead!) 

    I'm colourblind, so to me it looks blue, not really a solution though!

  • I think there is always going to be a difference in perception and much of it will be based on personal experience. I know people who've found dealings with different parts of the government very difficult, I know others who've found everything easy any government employees very helpful.

    I'm not an anti-government person by any means, I think they often do a lot right, but that they also get a lot wrong. Things like PIP and UC are good ideas in concept, but the implementation has been awful, you only have to look at the fact that over 70% of PIP refusals are overturned on appeal to see there's an issue.

    I don't think that the government are inherently evil, not do I think that saying that the government do good things in in any way being incompassionate or uncivilised. It's also only fair to admit that they get a lot wrong.

    As a society pensions have never been higher and we spend more on children than at any other point in British history. That being said spending on the disabled is lower than the spending over the last 10 years and I think it should be significantly increased over the next few years.

    I think the issue with "the poor" is a difficult one, when you look at not only benefits, but spending on health etc only the top 25% of working age people are actually net contributors. If compared to other countries like France or Germany where the welfare system is more generous for pensioners and the disabled then we would all be paying more tax and more importantly that figure is closer to half of people being net contributors. Their systems are however even less generous than ours for "the poor" and non-workers.

    Having a difference of political opinion is not "support the abuse of the disabled", especially so when that is based on someone having been treated well by the government. The key point is that we all have different experiences and opinions and sharing those can give us all a wider perspective which benefits everyone. 

  • I'm a firm believer in capitalism, it's brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of humanity, what's more it works, communism doesn't. That being said I'm not an advocate of totally free market capitalism, there needs to be a rigorous system of laws and regulations to make the system work effectively and fairly. I also believe there should be a welfare/benefits system for those that can't (not won't) look after themselves, especially people like the elderly and disabled, but also people experiencing short term difficulty, between jobs etc.

    I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others).

    It's a difficult one, on a global scale we're probably all in the top 5% or higher and our living standards exceed billions of people. On a UK scale people on here probably cover the whole range, from the bottom to the top quintile of earnings.

    I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs).

    I think it's not just NTs, those of us with ASD need purpose, it's just we might have a different drive and purpose than others. Mine is often to feel safe and secure in life and a huge part of that is having financial security so I've always worked hard to provide for myself. I'm less bothered about stuff though, My house is probably along minimalist lines and looks modern (a lot of white, wooden floors etc.) but that's more because I don't have lots of stuff that doesn't serve a function and I like things to be clean, tidy and ordered, so it helps with that.

  • I just feel uncomfortable being somewhere where by nature of their position some support the abuse of the disabled .   Ultimately it comes down to how a compassionate and civilised society should be. For me that's reflected in attitudes to children/the disabled/elderly/ and poor.

  • Thank you...I think you and me think very similar. I can for the most part fit into the society box as well..... I manage until things get tough. That's when it starts to become obvious to others and I just sit in a room thinking for hours-days but the root cause is I get stressed from how i feel treated, which i think is due to lack of understanding.

    But yeah, defiantly a wide spectrum. 

  • Going off topic.......
    I think as ASD people we have the ability to offer a better solution to the NT system.

    For example, I used to believe in capitalism. I still do... 
    I think people should work, and hard work should be rewarded. But it should be done equally. I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others). I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs). But when the means of production and the tools of production are owned by the few. The wealth will always go upwards to the thus creation of (global capitalism elite / multinational-corporations). 

    I read a statistic from oxfam that said 8 people own half of humanities wealth and it's an accepted fact that the divide between the rich and poor has never been so great. Yes we are slowly solving absolute poverty in this world but we are creating social, relative poverty in it's place. We need a better system and the fairest system I can think of is that either there is a maximum wealth that can be accumulated in a lifetime (or) the removal of inheritance. This means that everybody who has money deserves it, because they have worked for it. This would be far better equality.

  • "some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment."

    This is life and why we need better equality for all!

  • Please don't delete your account. Especially not over a difference of opinion. Isn't that punishing yourself as a way of trying to punish someone else or, as it's called 'Cutting off your nose to spite your face'?  (Which is a stupid sounding thing to say but means the same thing apparently.)

    The chats on here would be very boring if everyone believed and thought and said the same things. There would be no point in anyone ever talking! We could all just come on here and press 'ditto' continuously if that were the case and then we'd all be bored and leave and the whole thing would just close down.

    Everyone sees things differently and it's okay to say that. It doesn't mean you have to agree with them, I just think "Well that's interesting" or "I don't agree with that" or something and either comment on it or just move on.

    Moving on doesn't mean I'm agreeing, it just means that I don't feel the need to try to change that persons point of view because I cannot understand how they got that point of view in the first place.

    Just like I cannot understand people who like the colour purple! It disgusts me and makes me feel sick, but if someone else said it was a lovely colour I'd just accept that as their own personal point of view. It's not a fact that purple is disgusting or lovely. (Although it does 'feel' like a fact to me, I really do dislike that horrible colour AND it's all over this website but i'm not going to close my account because of it!)

    It's not a fact that the government are good OR bad in their treatment of ASD but it IS a fact that some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment. 

    Please don't delete your account? (Find a way to take away all of the purple instead!) 

     

     

     

  • Niccolò Machiavelli was a political adviser in the renaissance period. He has often been called the father of modern political science. If you read his books you will see exactly how systematic it is. I'm fairly sure it's compulsive reading for government. 

    His writings actually make a lot 
    of sense to my mind. Too much sense....
    After reading it, I've forever seen the world differently & it is terrifying to be aware and watch everyone behave like sheep. Then again, it could just be the way I learnt what others already know.

    Don't delete your account. I for one, need to find likeminded others!

  • I too have had a substantial income drop. I can't tell you the % but it's more than 50%. I can no longer support a car and all my friends live out of town. I've had to rely on the food bank and discretionary housing payment to cover my rent due to the drop of income between DLA and being awarded PIP (currently at tribunal). Without PIP I will have to move but I don't have deposit money..... I've also not worked for the last 16 months and I've been on job seekers. I know if I can get a job, after a while I'll manage because I can get my car back on the road but I'll struggle at first because I'm terrible on public transport (not always but sometimes) hence I usually walk. It's the only way I can be reliable.

    I could get a job tomorrow through family but I get terrible chest pain and my doctors treat me like I'm delusional. I can't do a mentally involving job because I often don't sleep at night due to the chest pain thus there is no way I can do a physical job (would be the opportunity through family). So i'm stuck looking for something I can't do that is accomidating and will cover my costs. 

    Hence I'm fighting my GP to do the nessesary scans to locate the problem but if they won't refer me to the hospital experts what am i supposed to do.... ???? Thankfully I've had great advice since signing up. I'm going to switch GP, challenge the conflicting inaccuracies on my medical record "some doctors read the right bit, some don't", then I'll try again for help. Hopefully once my records have been corrected they will refer me out of area to an expert!

  • It seems at least one person agrees with you  NAS24859. I wonder how many others here support the systematic government abuse of the disabled. It makes me feel  very uncomfortable to know that some here wish disabled people ill.

    If someone could tell me how I cancel my account I would be grateful.

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  • It seems at least one person agrees with you  NAS24859. I wonder how many others here support the systematic government abuse of the disabled. It makes me feel  very uncomfortable to know that some here wish disabled people ill.

    If someone could tell me how I cancel my account I would be grateful.

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  • Hard work is what people do either because it needs to be done and someone has to do it, we don't all have other people we can delegate it to, or can afford to pay to do so,

    The truth of the matter is that smart people generally don't work hard. The secret of success in life is getting the most for the least. Smart is not a synonym for educated, intellectual, or highly qualified.

    and Hard work is also what people put into something they care about.

    That's called commitment and a labour of love. There's a big difference at putting in lots of time and effort into something you love and putting in lots and time and effort into something you don't love just to pay the bills.

  • "Hard work is for mugs," Arran? 

    Hard work is what people do either because it needs to be done and someone has to do it, we don't all have other people we can delegate it to, or can afford to pay to do so, and Hard work is also what people put into something they care about. 

    "Protestant work ethic"? (How do I show 'eyes roll in disgust' in type?) 

  • For example, I used to believe in capitalism. I still do... 
    I think people should work, and hard work should be rewarded. But it should be done equally. I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others). I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs). But when the means of production and the tools of production are owned by the few. The wealth will always go upwards to the thus creation of (global capitalism elite / multinational-corporations). 

    I read a statistic from oxfam that said 8 people own half of humanities wealth and it's an accepted fact that the divide between the rich and poor has never been so great. Yes we are slowly solving absolute poverty in this world but we are creating social, relative poverty in it's place. We need a better system and the fairest system I can think of is that either there is a maximum wealth that can be accumulated in a lifetime (or) the removal of inheritance. This means that everybody who has money deserves it, because they have worked for it. This would be far better equality.

    One of my biggest concerns is how automation and developments in technology are killing (old) jobs at a higher rate than (new) jobs are being created.

    There's no law in economics which says that there will always be enough paid employment to go round.

    The loss of jobs due to automation systematically results in a loss of income tax and NI revenue for the government. Automation is legitimate tax evasion.

  • I'm a firm believer in capitalism, it's brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of humanity, what's more it works, communism doesn't. That being said I'm not an advocate of totally free market capitalism, there needs to be a rigorous system of laws and regulations to make the system work effectively and fairly. I also believe there should be a welfare/benefits system for those that can't (not won't) look after themselves, especially people like the elderly and disabled, but also people experiencing short term difficulty, between jobs etc.

    Are you a capitalist or are you a Calvinist?

    Real capitalists do not work for money. They let their money work for them. Hard work is for mugs.

    Calvinists believe in the strong / Protestant work ethic.

    Oh, you still haven't answered my questions.

  • I agree, depending on the type of equality. I'm a huge fan of equality of opportunity, I'm hugely against equality of outcome.

  • It's not a fact that the government are good OR bad in their treatment of ASD but it IS a fact that some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment. 

    I totally agree with this, there are also huge regional disparities in treatment based around the priorities of the local council. I remember reading an article in I think the Guardian about how provision of services changed when council leaders child was diagnosed with some disability and they then realised how poor the provision was.

    (Find a way to take away all of the purple instead!) 

    I'm colourblind, so to me it looks blue, not really a solution though!

  • I think there is always going to be a difference in perception and much of it will be based on personal experience. I know people who've found dealings with different parts of the government very difficult, I know others who've found everything easy any government employees very helpful.

    I'm not an anti-government person by any means, I think they often do a lot right, but that they also get a lot wrong. Things like PIP and UC are good ideas in concept, but the implementation has been awful, you only have to look at the fact that over 70% of PIP refusals are overturned on appeal to see there's an issue.

    I don't think that the government are inherently evil, not do I think that saying that the government do good things in in any way being incompassionate or uncivilised. It's also only fair to admit that they get a lot wrong.

    As a society pensions have never been higher and we spend more on children than at any other point in British history. That being said spending on the disabled is lower than the spending over the last 10 years and I think it should be significantly increased over the next few years.

    I think the issue with "the poor" is a difficult one, when you look at not only benefits, but spending on health etc only the top 25% of working age people are actually net contributors. If compared to other countries like France or Germany where the welfare system is more generous for pensioners and the disabled then we would all be paying more tax and more importantly that figure is closer to half of people being net contributors. Their systems are however even less generous than ours for "the poor" and non-workers.

    Having a difference of political opinion is not "support the abuse of the disabled", especially so when that is based on someone having been treated well by the government. The key point is that we all have different experiences and opinions and sharing those can give us all a wider perspective which benefits everyone. 

  • I'm a firm believer in capitalism, it's brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of humanity, what's more it works, communism doesn't. That being said I'm not an advocate of totally free market capitalism, there needs to be a rigorous system of laws and regulations to make the system work effectively and fairly. I also believe there should be a welfare/benefits system for those that can't (not won't) look after themselves, especially people like the elderly and disabled, but also people experiencing short term difficulty, between jobs etc.

    I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others).

    It's a difficult one, on a global scale we're probably all in the top 5% or higher and our living standards exceed billions of people. On a UK scale people on here probably cover the whole range, from the bottom to the top quintile of earnings.

    I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs).

    I think it's not just NTs, those of us with ASD need purpose, it's just we might have a different drive and purpose than others. Mine is often to feel safe and secure in life and a huge part of that is having financial security so I've always worked hard to provide for myself. I'm less bothered about stuff though, My house is probably along minimalist lines and looks modern (a lot of white, wooden floors etc.) but that's more because I don't have lots of stuff that doesn't serve a function and I like things to be clean, tidy and ordered, so it helps with that.

  • I just feel uncomfortable being somewhere where by nature of their position some support the abuse of the disabled .   Ultimately it comes down to how a compassionate and civilised society should be. For me that's reflected in attitudes to children/the disabled/elderly/ and poor.

  • Going off topic.......
    I think as ASD people we have the ability to offer a better solution to the NT system.

    For example, I used to believe in capitalism. I still do... 
    I think people should work, and hard work should be rewarded. But it should be done equally. I have lots of money (compared to some) and very little (compared to others). I think it's human nature (especially for NT) to feel the need for purpose and work. I think it's human nature to strive for more stuff (especially NTs). But when the means of production and the tools of production are owned by the few. The wealth will always go upwards to the thus creation of (global capitalism elite / multinational-corporations). 

    I read a statistic from oxfam that said 8 people own half of humanities wealth and it's an accepted fact that the divide between the rich and poor has never been so great. Yes we are slowly solving absolute poverty in this world but we are creating social, relative poverty in it's place. We need a better system and the fairest system I can think of is that either there is a maximum wealth that can be accumulated in a lifetime (or) the removal of inheritance. This means that everybody who has money deserves it, because they have worked for it. This would be far better equality.

  • "some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment."

    This is life and why we need better equality for all!

  • Please don't delete your account. Especially not over a difference of opinion. Isn't that punishing yourself as a way of trying to punish someone else or, as it's called 'Cutting off your nose to spite your face'?  (Which is a stupid sounding thing to say but means the same thing apparently.)

    The chats on here would be very boring if everyone believed and thought and said the same things. There would be no point in anyone ever talking! We could all just come on here and press 'ditto' continuously if that were the case and then we'd all be bored and leave and the whole thing would just close down.

    Everyone sees things differently and it's okay to say that. It doesn't mean you have to agree with them, I just think "Well that's interesting" or "I don't agree with that" or something and either comment on it or just move on.

    Moving on doesn't mean I'm agreeing, it just means that I don't feel the need to try to change that persons point of view because I cannot understand how they got that point of view in the first place.

    Just like I cannot understand people who like the colour purple! It disgusts me and makes me feel sick, but if someone else said it was a lovely colour I'd just accept that as their own personal point of view. It's not a fact that purple is disgusting or lovely. (Although it does 'feel' like a fact to me, I really do dislike that horrible colour AND it's all over this website but i'm not going to close my account because of it!)

    It's not a fact that the government are good OR bad in their treatment of ASD but it IS a fact that some people receive good treatment and some people receive bad treatment. 

    Please don't delete your account? (Find a way to take away all of the purple instead!) 

     

     

     

  • Niccolò Machiavelli was a political adviser in the renaissance period. He has often been called the father of modern political science. If you read his books you will see exactly how systematic it is. I'm fairly sure it's compulsive reading for government. 

    His writings actually make a lot 
    of sense to my mind. Too much sense....
    After reading it, I've forever seen the world differently & it is terrifying to be aware and watch everyone behave like sheep. Then again, it could just be the way I learnt what others already know.

    Don't delete your account. I for one, need to find likeminded others!